Knife Rights is asking for help to move 2A knife legislation forward in NV.
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hso, please explain. If this comes up in Texas, we could use some advice from y'all. Knives have been part of my EDC my entire life. I had to carry a Buck 110 in my back pocket next to my wallet because we were told "no belt sheath knives" my senior year in high school. I guess limits have to be set if somebody is toting a sword down the strip???
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jlr1962,
We worked in TN to get rid of all rules against knives that limited blade length, shape, opening mechanisms, and communities deciding that they didn't like your knife even if their neighbors or the state was ok with it. It was a two year struggle and we were only able to pass preemption the first year so your 4" folder was legal in towns that originally would have busted you for carrying anything over 3 or 3.25 or 3.75 inches. Last year KR was able to get all restrictions removed (except schools) so you could carry a 7" switchblade if you wanted or your father's Randall. KR has been busy in TX trying to get rid of the "illegal" knives rules as well and they need help with passing preemption to get rid of the crazy quilt of knife laws that make the knife in your pocket legal on the way to Grandma's, but illegal once you get there.
We worked in TN to get rid of all rules against knives that limited blade length, shape, opening mechanisms, and communities deciding that they didn't like your knife even if their neighbors or the state was ok with it. It was a two year struggle and we were only able to pass preemption the first year so your 4" folder was legal in towns that originally would have busted you for carrying anything over 3 or 3.25 or 3.75 inches. Last year KR was able to get all restrictions removed (except schools) so you could carry a 7" switchblade if you wanted or your father's Randall. KR has been busy in TX trying to get rid of the "illegal" knives rules as well and they need help with passing preemption to get rid of the crazy quilt of knife laws that make the knife in your pocket legal on the way to Grandma's, but illegal once you get there.
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That's correct, most 2A infringements are against some minority historically. Race was the basis of most prohibitions or restrictions on the knives someone could possess or carry. Hispanics, blacks, eastern europeans, mediterraneans were all the targets of laws infringing upon their 2A rights. That talking point needs to be added to the reasons you're calling and contacting the TX legislators.
Only the "right people" have rights when the laws are specifically written and enforced against "those people".
Only the "right people" have rights when the laws are specifically written and enforced against "those people".
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rooter,
The prohibitions aren't focused on specific racial or ethnic groups today so the argument is against the origins of these laws, but historically that was the basis for many of them.
It is a fact that most of the weapons restrictions were rooted in denying the right to self protection directed against one race/ethnic group or another. Mediterranean and Eastern European immigrants were some of the first these prohibitions were directed against. The switchblade and dirk/dagger prohibitions are a prime example of laws that started out in their early days based on keeping ethnic or racial groups from carrying.
The prohibitions aren't focused on specific racial or ethnic groups today so the argument is against the origins of these laws, but historically that was the basis for many of them.
It is a fact that most of the weapons restrictions were rooted in denying the right to self protection directed against one race/ethnic group or another. Mediterranean and Eastern European immigrants were some of the first these prohibitions were directed against. The switchblade and dirk/dagger prohibitions are a prime example of laws that started out in their early days based on keeping ethnic or racial groups from carrying.
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Here is the problem I have with knives and the Second Amendment.
Just last month the 7th Circuit ruled an assault weapons ban "Constitutional", based on some pretty shaky ground. One of the courts reason was that the "Assault" weapons ban was constitutional because there are other forms of "Arms" available (handguns).
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-b...4-3091:J:Easterbrook:aut:T:fnOp:N:1541776:S:0
If we are to consider a knife an "Arm" and protected under the Second Amendment, what is to stop the courts from banning other types of Firearms, or all types of firearms, if the Law allows one to carry/own an "Alternative", the knife?
Just last month the 7th Circuit ruled an assault weapons ban "Constitutional", based on some pretty shaky ground. One of the courts reason was that the "Assault" weapons ban was constitutional because there are other forms of "Arms" available (handguns).
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-b...4-3091:J:Easterbrook:aut:T:fnOp:N:1541776:S:0
If we are to consider a knife an "Arm" and protected under the Second Amendment, what is to stop the courts from banning other types of Firearms, or all types of firearms, if the Law allows one to carry/own an "Alternative", the knife?
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Steve,
That's the reasoning the Antis use arguing that muskets are what the 2nd is about
By excluding any arms when they are not defined more narrowly by the Constitution ALL arms are subject to being excluded. We have to be careful of that thinking considering there are many more instances every day that people are harassed and arrested for carrying something like a pocket knife than we ever knew.
That's the reasoning the Antis use arguing that muskets are what the 2nd is about
By excluding any arms when they are not defined more narrowly by the Constitution ALL arms are subject to being excluded. We have to be careful of that thinking considering there are many more instances every day that people are harassed and arrested for carrying something like a pocket knife than we ever knew.
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No doubt, but I still see this as fuel for the antis, but more important for our Courts.
If a "Knife" is an Arm protected by the 2nd, then according to our Courts, a Knife can be considered an alternative to a firearm giving justification to ban the firearm.
If a "Knife" is an Arm protected by the 2nd, then according to our Courts, a Knife can be considered an alternative to a firearm giving justification to ban the firearm.
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Knife Rights' Texas Knife Law Preemption bill, HB 905, that would rid Texas of its patchwork of local knife laws more strict than state law, has been assigned to the Senate Committee on Criminal Justice. Time is short and we need your help to get this bill heard and passed out of this committee
If you live, work or travel in Texas, we need you to ask Chairman Whitmire to hear HB 905 as soon as possible and we need you to also CALL and WRITE the committee members and politely ask them to support HB 905. See contacts below for you to CALL and EMAIL.
Preemption repeals and prevents local ordinances more restrictive than state law which only serve to confuse or entrap law-abiding citizens traveling within or through the state. Preemption ensures citizens can expect consistent enforcement of state knife laws everywhere in the state.
Two Texas cities made Knife Rights' 10 Worst Anti-Knife Cities in America list for 2014, San Antonio at number four and Corpus Christi at number nine. San Antonio prohibits carry of all locking-blade folding knives except on the job. There's no local restriction on fixed blade knives. In Corpus Christi it is illegal to carry any fixed blade knife or to carry a folder with a blade longer than 3-inches except when actually in use on the job.
Ask Chairman John Whitmire to please hear HB 905 as soon as possible and to please vote for a "do pass" recommendation.
512-463-0115 [email protected]
Ask the rest of the Senate Committee on Criminal Justice to please vote for a "do pass" recommendation on HB 905.
Sen. Joan Huffman 512-463-0117 [email protected]
Sen. Konni Burton 512-463-0110 No Direct Email Available - CALL or use email form at:
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/senate/members/dist10/dist10.htm
Sen. Brandon Creighton 512-463-0104 [email protected]
Sen. Juan Hinojosa 512-463-0120 [email protected]
Sen. José Menéndez 512-463-0634 [email protected]
Sen. Charles Perry 512-463-0128 [email protected]
HB 905, together with Knife Rights' Texas Knife Ban Repeal Bill, HB 3884, would comprehensively overhaul Texas knife law, ensuring that the new freedoms will be enjoyed by all the citizens of Texas. In 2013 Knife Rights led the repeal of Texas' switchblade ban. These bills will finish Knife Rights' overhaul of Texas knife law.
If you live, work or travel in Texas, we need you to ask Chairman Whitmire to hear HB 905 as soon as possible and we need you to also CALL and WRITE the committee members and politely ask them to support HB 905. See contacts below for you to CALL and EMAIL.
Preemption repeals and prevents local ordinances more restrictive than state law which only serve to confuse or entrap law-abiding citizens traveling within or through the state. Preemption ensures citizens can expect consistent enforcement of state knife laws everywhere in the state.
Two Texas cities made Knife Rights' 10 Worst Anti-Knife Cities in America list for 2014, San Antonio at number four and Corpus Christi at number nine. San Antonio prohibits carry of all locking-blade folding knives except on the job. There's no local restriction on fixed blade knives. In Corpus Christi it is illegal to carry any fixed blade knife or to carry a folder with a blade longer than 3-inches except when actually in use on the job.
Ask Chairman John Whitmire to please hear HB 905 as soon as possible and to please vote for a "do pass" recommendation.
512-463-0115 [email protected]
Ask the rest of the Senate Committee on Criminal Justice to please vote for a "do pass" recommendation on HB 905.
Sen. Joan Huffman 512-463-0117 [email protected]
Sen. Konni Burton 512-463-0110 No Direct Email Available - CALL or use email form at:
http://www.senate.state.tx.us/75r/senate/members/dist10/dist10.htm
Sen. Brandon Creighton 512-463-0104 [email protected]
Sen. Juan Hinojosa 512-463-0120 [email protected]
Sen. José Menéndez 512-463-0634 [email protected]
Sen. Charles Perry 512-463-0128 [email protected]
HB 905, together with Knife Rights' Texas Knife Ban Repeal Bill, HB 3884, would comprehensively overhaul Texas knife law, ensuring that the new freedoms will be enjoyed by all the citizens of Texas. In 2013 Knife Rights led the repeal of Texas' switchblade ban. These bills will finish Knife Rights' overhaul of Texas knife law.
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