xr1200 said:
One important issue with a small 380 is to make sure you get one that is DA only and not striker fired, the ruger and the keltec are striker fired and you will loose the important second strike capability and also DA only is the safest pocket gun to carry, SW 380 body guard is DA only.
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everything there is wrong ... it is almost impressive how much bad data you've crammed into a paragraph.
The Kel-Tec is hammer fired, as is the Ruger ... just because you can't see the hammer doesn't mean there isn't a hammer.
In fact,
here, have an animated picture of a pf9 running, which is damn near identical to the p32/p3at except bigger:
If a picture is worth a thousand words, an animated picture is worth at least five thousand.
Second-strike is of limited use, hardly a deal-breaker not to have it on a gun.
I assume you meant "lose" as in "not possess" rather than "loose" which means "not tight".
DA is pretty safe, but most pocket guns are at least somewhat double-action. Those that aren't will have some type of safety consideration in their design if they're made in the last century
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SonofGilnockie89, you're not the first to look for a pocket pistol, in fact the market is saturated with them at the moment, everything from modern high-tech material autoloaders to the venerable J-Frame style revolver or even the NAA mini revolver if you're willing to go to a single-action .22wmr for extreme concealment (plus the mini-revolver is fun and cheap to shoot, while you're going to pay .45acp prices for pocket auto plinking ammo and probably won't enjoy shooting it much)
my choice, on the extremely rare occasions I'm somewhere carry isn't approved of (but lacks metal detectors, armed security, effective access control, etc etc) is a Kel-Tec P32, which offers an extra round, last-shot hold-open, more controllable recoil, and a smidge less weight/size over the P3at ... plus even in the worst of the ammo crunch .32acp ammo was available, while .380acp was damn near mythical.
And for the nay-sayers on the P32 or .32acp, I'll say that I
could run a P3at if I had to, but I can run a P32
well and
easily ... the added comfort and extra round might just matter someday, although I'll likely have a pistol on my hip in a duty caliber if it ever matters, mousegun carry is maybe 5% of the time, otherwise I'm in that secure area (metal detectors/X-Ray/armed security/real access control) working, or carrying something in 9x19 or .45acp in an IWB holster.
But if you want to get into the .380 game, start with the Kel-Tec P3at, and then move on to the copies - I have yet to see one with an added "feature" that is worth the price, and the P3at is a nice little stripped-down pistol with nothing more than it needs in the way of controls, basically you get a little bitty magazine release and a trigger ... that's it, and that's all you need, there isn't real-estate on the side of that gun for more levers/buttons/switches as far as I'm concerned, in fact there's something to be said for the heel release on a gun that small.
And
if you have big pockets, the KT PF9 might be an option, as well ... I don't remember exactly how much thinner/lighter it is compared to the Kahr, but it is surely worth a look, and you already stock 9x19 ammo (although the PF9 might be pickier than a Block when it comes to defense ammo needs, reportedly they don't like 147 grain loads or
some HP shapes, don't get in a hissy fit about it, ammo testing is something you get to do with little guns, it is part of the compromise)
