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Say nothing to either him nor the land lord. Divulging the presence of a firearm would in no way whatsoever make your situation any better and after telling them, you'd have to be concerned about everyone they may say something to. At this point I'm thinking more about break-ins for the theft of the firearm after the info is out.
 
Just say nothing. Honestly, it wouldn't do any good, because shaking the door knob really isn't a big deal. In some places in the country (rural Midwest) people sometimes walk into the houses of friends and neighbors without much more than a quick knock.

An easy solution - always lock your door! That's what I do automatically, and the one time I did have someone try the doorknob (family member) they found it locked up tight. This way you know what is going on at all times.

Anything that comes through a LOCKED door gets met with a hail of lead.
 
There was a time when small town cops walking a beat would routinely check the doors on all the stores. It was a form of 'make work' to give them something to do in small towns where nothing much happened and it also made the tax paying business owners feel more secure knowing that there property was being checked on. This is not a new idea. It is the sort of thing that Barney Fife did in Mayberry.
 
"So what happens when you forget to lock the door, Rambo?"

The sound of someone coming through an unlocked door is a soft click and footsteps. The sound of someone coming through a locked door is much louder and quite distinctive, so it's kind of hard to mistake one for the other.

Also, have you ever heard of an auto-locking knob? They're easy to find, quick to install, and you'll never forget to lock your door again. Even if you're renting, just a quick replacement and take it with you when you leave.
 
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... it's kind of hard to mistake one for the other.

"Kind of hard"? So you're ready to greet somebody "with a hail of lead" on the possibility you might be mistaken?



Sounds reasonable to me...The sound of a door being kicked in IS rather distinctive...
 
Wow, you're kind of taking a beating over this one OP. It's almost like being on ARFCOM but without the profanity. :D You've handled everything fine, including deciding not to peruse it any further. Don't sweat it.

Funny story - I had an apartment years ago in a tourist area. The building was originally a motel (it didn't look that bad actually). My apartment was situated such that every now and then a distracted tourist would mistake my place for a motel office. They'd just walk right in. :eek: Or try to. One time I had a note stuck to my door with one of those plastic thumbtacks. I had forgotten to lock the door handle, but had the deadbolt locked. Wouldn't you know it, some guy comes up to the door in full stride, turns the handle, and walks smack into the door. Thump! Hit his forehead on the thumbtack. It left a perfectly round red mark on him (soon to be purple I'm sure). Bent my tack too. :) I really wanted to feel sorry for him, but I just barely held the laughter back while I explained to him that this was an apartment complex. A friend later told me I should leave a note tacked up there all the time that said "Warning! Thumbtack."
 
.The sound of someone coming through an unlocked door is a soft click and footsteps. The sound of someone coming through a locked door is much louder and quite distinctive, so it's kind of hard to mistake one for the other.

Also, have you ever heard of an auto-locking knob? They're easy to find, quick to install, and you'll never forget to lock your door again. Even if you're renting, just a quick replacement and take it with you when you leave.
Not to be picky (ha!), but there are certain individuals that can and will pick a lock (and very easily so I've heard) for whatever reason. Some door locks are almost pick-proof though.
 
Wow, you're kind of taking a beating over this one OP. It's almost like being on ARFCOM but without the profanity. You've handled everything fine, including deciding not to peruse it any further. Don't sweat it.

Funny story - I had an apartment years ago in a tourist area. The building was originally a motel (it didn't look that bad actually). My apartment was situated such that every now and then a distracted tourist would mistake my place for a motel office. They'd just walk right in. Or try to. One time I had a note stuck to my door with one of those plastic thumbtacks. I had forgotten to lock the door handle, but had the deadbolt locked. Wouldn't you know it, some guy comes up to the door in full stride, turns the handle, and walks smack into the door. Thump! Hit his forehead on the thumbtack. It left a perfectly round red mark on him (soon to be purple I'm sure). Bent my tack too. I really wanted to feel sorry for him, but I just barely held the laughter back while I explained to him that this was an apartment complex. A friend later told me I should leave a note tacked up there all the time that said "Warning! Thumbtack."

I hadn't previously heard of arfcom. Thank you for that

And funny story :)
 
Simple comprehension of the stated sentence would have led you to understand that the person posting that was intending the readers to understand he has DOGS. Which, if that were to happen here, anyone "jiggling" my door knob would also get a pretty healthy intimidation of very deep, aggressive, downright vicious sounding, growls that would make the hair of the devil himself stand up and take notice. (I love my boys :D )

OP, I to am in the boat of get in touch with the security company to verify that they are indeed informed of your presence at the residence.
My mistake. I apologize to the poster that my comment was aimed at.
 
I hadn't previously heard of arfcom. Thank you for that

And funny story :)
Sorry, ARFCOM is what the arfcommers call AR15.com. An entertaining bunch, but the General Discussions forum over there is like a kindergarten. A dirty, dirty kindergarten. ;) Where Teacher leaves the room for hours at a time. I guess it's more like Lord of the Flies. :)
 
Same thing happened to me on an internship to Fallschurch, VA side of DC. Best bit of advice: "leave it be." The guard admitted his mistake, no need to go any farther. If it happens again then contact higher chain of command with Security Co.
Yep. By analogy, I travel a lot on business, don't drink at all (I'm just a boring guy), and happen to be a bit of a nutty professor type. It's not unusual during a trip every now and then that I'll return to a hotel room that I think is mine, try my key (even a few times) before I realize that my room is down the hall or another floor. If I got met by someone holding a handgun every time I made such a mistake, I'd ground myself and leave my job.
Let it be. It was either an accident similar to mine, or someone has been forewarned.
 
I think some of the posters are giving this guy too hard of a time. This could be a serious issue. When you rent an apartment, that property is legally yours (for the purposes here, anyway) for the duration of the lease. If your landlords are employing security guards to check on your property, you need to be aware of it and be in some control of how they operate.

In this case, the landlord wanted the security guard to check HIS property, but that shouldn't include checking yours without your knowledge.

There's no real concern if your door is locked when the security guard checks, but mistakes do happen and people do occasionally leave their door unlocked. What happens when you've accidentally left your door unlocked one night? You're in bed asleep and your friendly security guard checks the door, finds it unlocked, assumes no one is home, and thinks that he needs to check the entire apartment for intruders. You wake up to the noise of him coming into your apartment and go for your gun.

If you don't want your landlord to be aware of your firearm ownership (which is none of their business), then I see two options:

A) Be aware that their security guard may check your door when they're out of town because he isn't paying attention to the fact that your building has multiple occupants, and just ALWAYS lock your door.

B) Tell your landlord to notify that security guard NOT to check your door, since it isn't your LANDLORD'S door while you're renting it, and so they shouldn't be having people checking it without your permission.

Some people might disagree with me, but look at it this way: if your landlord wanted to hire a handyman to enter your apartment to do repairs, he'd have to give you notice. If the security guard your landlord hires tries the doorknob of your apartment (and assuming it isn't locked, he doesn't just walk away, but instead opens the door), then it isn't really any different. In both cases, the landlord is hiring someone to enter your apartment without giving you notice. You shouldn't have to put up with that.

Obviously the original poster doesn't WANT to shoot anyone, and especially doesn't want to accidentally shoot a security guard. That's why he's asking for our advice, because I'm pretty sure everyone here would potentially react with force if they were surprised by someone walking into their home at night.

Aaron
 
I'm glad at least one person thinks so :) I was beginning to think I was a bit daft getting all these responses from a user population that often brings up SHTF and recently had a topic related to buying ammo for unowned guns! :D
 
Mmmmm?
Thats what security guards are supposed to do.

Bingo !!!

This ain't rocket science folks...

Most security guards have numbers they call when doors are found open rather than "clearing" the property.
 
YOU have absolute control over where you live.

In this regard, I beg to differ. Sometimes an economic or work situation may dictate that one live in an area which is not up to their standards or preferences. At times, I've been forced to live in areas with higher crime or possibility of break-ins and thefts than I'd like for one or another reasons. While it's a nice illusion, sometimes we really don't have all the control over our circumstances that we'd like to imagine we do.

OP, I can only tell you how I've reacted in similar situations.

1: ~1 am, I was moving into a new apartment and had the door open while I was running back and forth to the moving van. My dog starts barking and growling and I see a very large individual silhouetted in my doorway. Turns out it was my 5'7" neighbor asking when I was going to move the van, as he had to go into work in the morning. Funny what tricks light and fear will pull on your eyes... I answered the door after drawing my gun, but had it hidden behind my hip, so hopefully he never noticed it. I told him I would move the van shortly so he wouldn't have a problem leaving in the morning. We made some small talk and he went back to his apartment and I finished moving.

2: I was asleep on my couch around 2 in the morning when someone barged in through my unlocked front door. Turns out it was a drunk friend of my roommate, who was in the habit of leaving the doors unlocked. To be honest, I was startled out of sleep and my first reaction was to yell at him, not go for my shotgun (which was upstairs in my closet, anyway). He very quickly identified himself as a friend of my roommate, who came in about a half hour later and apologized for the whole incident.

In my opinion, while it may be prudent to go armed in your own home, it's far more likely that someone's intentions are benign or simply misinformed. I wouldn't suggest unleashing the "hounds of hell" or even showing a gun. I think dogs are the best home defense/early warning system in existence, and that's in addition to being great companions. I recommend a dog, backed up by a discerning, armed human.

I think merely mentioning the situation to your landlords is sufficient to handle the incident. Perhaps you might request that they inform you if such a thing is to occur again, in order to save undue worry or stress on yourself. No mention of guns, going rambo, hounds of hell, etc. need occur.
 
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