advice on how to carry please

[ganymede]

I carry a 9mm taurus 24/7 pro compact pistol on my right hip. the gun is basicly a single action that goes automaticly to double action on a FTF. there is no decocker on it so if there is a round in the chamber, it has to be on SA. I'm not sure how safe it is to carry a single action gun tucked into to your waistband with no holster without a safety on, so I leave the thumb safety on. But i know in the event iI have to shoot someone, chances are im going to forget about the safety and lose a second or so while I remember to turn it off. Would it be safe to carry like that with no safety on?

 

[Hutch]

Where to begin? First, get a holster of some sort. Get a LOT of practice drawing and making ready to fire ("presenting the gun"). This can be done at home, if you doubly-triply check to abso-flippin'-lootly sure the gun is not loaded. I'm not familiar with the Taurus, but I'm not following your description. How can it be a double-action ONLY in the case of a failure to fire? If it is a customary DA/SA auto, just carry it HOLSTERED, and hammer down on a live round. Doesn't get much simpler than that.

 

[psyopspec]

There's two solutions to your problem:

Software - train with your weapon. Take a class. Practice until taking the safety off while drawing is second nature.

Hardware - Get a good holster that covers the trigger guard. If you can't get used to having a manual safety on your weapon after training (see above) then it might be time to get a new weapon, but you should still train with it or it will be useless when you need it the most.

Would it be safe to carry like that with no safety on?

I would say no even if you were using a good holster that covered the trigger guard. An SA weapon is meant to be carried with a round in the chamber, safety activated.

 

[Superlite27]

An SA weapon is meant to be carried with a round in the chamber, safety activated.

+1

Safe is safe. I'll second the advice here. Usually, advice is worth what you pay for it, but the above posters are pointing you right. Hopefully, I do as well.

I'm unfamiliar with the 24/7, but it sounds like a Single action/Double action weapon. (Slide can be racked chambering a round to cock it, when FTF, can pull the trigger again for a "second strike")

If so, I agree it is a SA to start with. I'd definately leave the safety on and carry it "cocked and locked". This keeps the hammer off the chambered round, and you have TWO safeties. The manual safety, and the safety in YOUR HEAD. Practice trigger finger discipline.

The whole thing is getting used to "presenting" with an automatic feel for taking it off safe while keeping your finger off the trigger.

The good thing about this is, if you ever decide to switch to a 1911 style pistol, you will already have the "muscle memory" for carrying in condition 1.

 

[ganymede]

it doesnt become double action only. it becomes double action

 

[RAMRunnr]

I have a Taurus PT 908 which is SA/DA. I carry one round chambered with the hammer down and thumb safety on. I have trained to draw and DA the first round and then remaining rounds are SA, except when there is FTF, then DA it and if no fire on second impact rack slide to eject bad round and continue as SA. Something that I do in my training to help. I have a few "practice/display rounds", casing with no powder and a dummy primer and a plastic "bullet". Of course it will not fire and it is made to cycle through a gun. I cop buddy got them for me a while back. Sometimes I will have a friend load my clips and put a few of them in the clips so I can practice what to do in case of misfires. The friend puts them in so I don't know where at in practice I will come upon the "duds". Helps you to act and react and get in your reflexes as what to do.

 

[SWDoc]

Ditto the get-a-holster advice. It presents the pistol in the same way each time and secures the pistol much better and more safely. As for the safety costing you time, maybe a very little bit, if you choose to use it. But with practice, the difference would be measured a couple of tenths of a second or less. I am basing this on the difference in times between when I am using my 1911 and a glock or XDM.

Practice, practice, practice.

Steve

 

[Yoda]

Holster - holster - holster !!!

GET A HOLSTER!

Having a gun go BANG because you were too ignorant, stupid, or cheap to get a holster to protect the trigger is just, well, ignorant, stupid, and DANGEROUSLY IMMORAL.

If you're going to carry, you have an obligation to everyone to carry safely. The holster keeps odd things from activating the trigger. If you don't use one, you might do a lot more than just shoot your eye out! You might shoot someone else's eye out.

Besides, that holster also keeps a lot of gunk out of the action of your gun. Imagine your embarassment if you need your gun, but it doesn't go BANG!

- - - Yoda

 

[ReadyRob]

You do need a holster. After that

PRACTICE

Practice drawing 10 times a day (morning and night) in slow motion for 30 days. Do another 30 days speeding it up. Turn off the noise in your life and think about what you are doing. TV, radio, wife, kids, make it private time.
If this is the gun you are carrying, decide were you want the safety off. Shortly after the gun out of holster for sure.

It will take a couple thousand times for it to be second nature, but it will happen.

PRACTICE, and remember practice does not make perfect - perfect practice makes perfect.

 

[zoom6zoom]

Practice drawing 10 times a day (morning and night) in slow motion for 30 days.

Yes. And make sure all your ammo is in another room during this time.

 

[Lightninstrike]

Yes. And make sure all your ammo is in another room during this time.

Yep, and that the gun is unloaded and even so you are pointing in a safe direction when you practice. Basement interior wall works for me.

 

[BBQLS1]

Get a holster and train to turn the safety off when your firearm clears the holster.

 

[Rickstir]

I carry either a snub nose revolver or a 92FS. I carry the auto just like the wheel gun, one in the pipe, safety off. This is the way I train. It is the same for either gun, draw, acquire target, fire. I shoot a lot, draw from both IWB and OWB, but never without a holster. I also practice in a sitting position, trying to simulate being in a car. Practice, practice, practice.