Agricola....will DNA samples be required of all?

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Do you think this proposal may become law in the U.K.?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3088920.stm

DNA tests sought 'for every Briton'


DNA is increasingly useful
Every single person in the UK should be compelled to have their DNA on the national database in an effort to prevent crime, a senior police officer has argued.
Currently about two million people who have been charged with criminal offences have their DNA profiles on the national database.

But Kevin Morris, chairman of the Police Superintendents Association, told the Times newspaper opposition to extending the scheme to every man, woman and child was overstated.

The association will call this week for the extension as a tool to revolutionise the fight against crime and solve hundreds of murders.

Civil liberties campaigners have always opposed the suggestion, arguing it is intrusive to make such demands of people who have done nothing wrong.

Campaigners also fear that data could eventually be used by insurers looking for genetic predispositions towards certain serious illnesses.

They also argue that any such move would make all people feel like suspects.

But Mr Morris told the newspaper: "If we have a compulsory database to which every citizen is expected to donate their DNA as a responsibility within our society, I fervently believe we will not only detect crimes quicker but we will help prevent them in the first place.

"With estimates suggesting that there are as many as 600 people in the UK who have committed murder but who escaped initial detection, the question has got to be asked why we can't do more.

"Experience has shown that the general public come forward in their thousands when they believe their sample will help police to detect a serious crime."

Mr Morris told the newspaper people would be more worried about abuses of the DNA by commercial companies than about being seen as suspects.
 
Scary stuff, I pity the subjects that live in that country.
It probably will become law, sadly.
 
Scary indeed, Doctor Wu....

There's been talk of universal DNA databases for Australia as well.:eek:

I have been under the impression that there was not a great deal of support here for them, but if the U.K. is seriously considering such a move, it will give the control freaks in Australia encouragement:scrutiny:
 
"I fervently believe we will not only detect crimes quicker but we will help prevent them in the first place."

Prevent them how? Look for genetic predisposition towards criminal acts? Bring out the old phrenology machines under a different name?

Once you do come up with a "criminal genetic profile", how will you deal with it? Will you put people into prison on the assumption that they will wind up there sooner or later, and are merely protecting the greater good of society?

Hey, now that you can ID crooks before they are born, why not bypass the whole mess, and have those aflicted fetuses aborted! (Sterilize their parents so that won't happen again, as well.) Then we can figure out everyones genetically correct job! No one will be unhappy in their work!
Work will *truly* set us free.

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(Sorry. I'm a little bitter just now....)
 
"If we have a compulsory database to which every citizen is expected to donate their DNA as a responsibility within our society, I fervently believe we will not only detect crimes quicker but we will help prevent them in the first place.

it'll be a cold day in hell before the get my DNA on file by my leave...
 
Probably already happening here.

They're(Socialists) probably not ready to annouce that they are collecting DNA over here in America, because of how we're responding on this thread, but I wouldn't put it past them to be collecting it from newborns in hospitals simply because there is no law currently against the practice.

It's been my experience that bureaucrats will get away with whatever they can if there is no higher authority that tells them that they can't do something that they aren't authorized to do.

It can happen here but not yet in the light of day.
 
Probably already happening here.

I can recall threads about how it is already happening in some American public schools (with the DNA records being "destroyed" at some unspecified point in the future).

(WARNING: Please adjust your tin foil hats just right before reading any further, folks!)

(Cue the Raiders of The Lost Ark music soundtrack)

(Scene opens in a vast government warehouse filled with millions of opened, empty envelopes)

(Camera gradually focuses in tighter, until one envelope is visible. It is a tax return envelope, addressed to the IRS.)

Nameless newbie warehouse flunky picks up the envelope, says to senior fellow flunkie: "Why in God's name is the IRS keeping all these empty tax return envelopes?"

Senior Flunkie: "For the DNA, son. The glue on the envelope has a saliva sample, and the adhesive-backed stamp has more DNA from their skin, as well as a fingerprint. Heck, most of 'em have their name and address on the return label. We don't even have to record who sent it - It's right here on the envelope!"

Newbie: "But why?..."

Senior: "In due time you'll find out, son, in due time..."
 
We had a recent program here in the NC Indiana area where the local LE was advertising a "Help ID your Child" kit that included a vaguely worded reference to "samples". When I saw it, I pointed it out to the wife and told here that it's coming. She didn't understand it until I said "DNA" at which point she basically said "over my dead body".
 
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