Longer range groups
We don't shoot at 100 yards, because we don't have an indoor range close enough for testing on a regular basis.
We have had only once customer that had a decent set up that has reported groups so far:
20 power scope,
match trigger group (unknown pull weight),
Match bolt (MOA)
a factory wood stock he bedded himself,
on sandbags,
in an indoor range
With a suppressor & bolt lock
five 5 shot group average was 0.45" using weight sorted SSS. I've not gotten a response from the guy after asking for more info in equipment and pix.
We will be doing our own more extensive testing to see if we can identify consistent hummer barrels that will shoot SSS into the zeros all the time. Those barrels will be sold at a significant premium.
Most of the other reports have been with 12x-16x scopes and factory trigger groups, bolted together guns, no special bedding, etc. The reports are usually at or under 3/4" at 100y with weight sorted ammo. I suspect that's because those with worse groups due to bad technique or ??? simply don't bother to report. Most guys can't shoot better than 1" off of bags in any case, especially if there is any kind of wind.
Those that don't weight sort ammo get 1"+ groups with flyers that open things up to shotgun size patterns at 100 yards. (8"+ with the flyers)
Our own testing with a MOA screw in barreled action, short Bentz chamber, clamped into a machine rest, match trigger, Outback Suppressor on the muzzle, and 40 x scope at *** _ 25 yards _ *** show that ~~1/2 of the barrels will give 5x5 averages of 0.060-0.090 or less, with the occasional horrible flyers. We think a bolt lock will cure those flyers. Testing of that will be happening when ever we get a warm spell, as it's @#$@!#$! cold in the indoor range.
The other half of the barrels usually shoot into the 0.1's, but we don't want to piss people off by claiming that, then have them slap a barrel into a wal-mart gun and not achieve our results.
Like the guy that didn't weight sort, used a 9x tasco scope on a Wal Mart gun, then got pissed because his groups were ~1-1/4" at 100 yards in breezy conditions. I told him I think those groups were a statistical freak event, and he should never expect to do that good with that set up in the future. :banghead:
