Aimpoint vs EOTech

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So, I'm wanting to get an optic for my M4gery. I also plan on strapping it to my M4 when I head off to Iraq this fall. So ruggedness, battery life, and all those little things that go hand in hand with having a weapon on your person 24/7/365 come in to play. I'm pretty much set on one of these two options. I've used an Aimpoint and really it. Never had the chance to use the EOTech, though...

Thanks in advance,

Mark
 
I bought the Eotech and returned it. I own the Aimpoint Comp ML2.

The Eotech was too big. It was like having a big screen TV mounted to my gun. The controls were slow and not intuitive. I did not like the busy circle/dot reticle. Batteries are really not an issue. You can leave the Aimpoint on for a year.
 
EO TECH hands down.
I dumped my Aimpoint shortly after buying a 552 EO TECH. Liked the EO some much that I became a dist/dealer for them! Wouldn't use anything else now.

Rev.F 552's have about 1000+hrs on a couple "AA"'s. Never had any issues with any model I've owned and could acquire my targets far faster than with the aimpoint.

Comes down to what works for you though :) Ever board has at least 6 of these threads, 120pages long...EO vs. Aimpoint. LOL!

If ya ever need an EO or info, drop me a line!

GMG
 
EoTech w/(Pics.)

I like the Eotech....cheap and easily replaced batteries, great HUD, VERY accurate.

Here is the Eotech 552 on top of my Custom mini....
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That is a dime for reference @ 80yrds. There are 3 separate groups there....EoTech gets my vote....

MaceWindu
 
The EOTech is a good sight but of the two, has significantly more reliability issues. The Aimpoint is an excellent sight and holds up well under the rigors of military use. My recommendation is to go with the M-68.
 
This question often inspires more than a few emotional responses.

I prefer the Aimpoint. I have never owned an Eotech, but one of my best friends has one, so I am pretty familiar with it. I have shot his enough to know that I like mine better. More than one person in the know agrees with me. For example: Pat Rogers considers the Aimpoint to be clearly superior.
 
Lets just say you cant go wrong with either site.Both are great sites my Eotech I feel is a little quicker in CQB,My Aimpoint works better for me at longer distances.So do what I did and buy Both!
 
I have both the Eotech 511 and the Aimpoint Comp M. While I like both, I feel that the Eotech is basically more advanced - at least from a user perspective if not a technical perspective. While the Eotech is a bigger, this also allows for a greater FOV - I don't really even notice the housing of the Eotech as I do the tube on the aimpoint. From a total cost perspective on a flattop AR, the Eotech is also almost always going to win, as you don't need to purchase a separate mount for it. The battery life issue was addressed in revision F, but I believe these are in short supply right now, which probably won't change anytime soon. Eotech was just awarded a large contract for the SOPMOD2 project (along with Eclan and Trijicon) so most new production will likely be focused on that. Interestingly, Aimpoint, was NOT awarded part of that contract - reinforcing my idea that while both are good, the Eotech is the "new" while Aimpoint the "old".

Rocko
 
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For the casual shooter who may shoot 1000 rounds a year the EOTech might be an OK sight. The Aimpoint is a rock solid combat sight that can stand up to constant abuse. The Aimpoint will still be going long after the EOTech has gone TU. I suggest going over to the Tactical Forums and doing a search on the Aimpoint by Pat Rogers he knows what he is talking about. For real use get the Aimpoint you won't regret it.

http://216.92.9.144/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi
 
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I prefer the M68. I think it is more rugged. EOTECH has the advantage of a AA battery model. Aimpoint batteries have apparently been difficult to obtain in Iraq. So bring extra. Most guys are getting 6 months per battery if they keep it shut off when not needed. KILL FLASH on Aimpoint is also nice.
 
This is a pretty contentious debate. Personally, I prefer the Aimpoint; but either sight is a tough sight that is currently being used in combat by our military. Both sights have NSNs and the military has purchased both sights in large quantities.

To my knowledge, there has been no award on the SOPMOD Block II optics yet. The Army did make a large EOtech purchase; but I don't believe it is related to that bid.

I would shoot both and decide which you like better. After that, test your personal sight thoroughly BEFORE you get shipped over there. I've seen both Aimpoint and EOtech failures though both are as rare as hen's teeth. In most cases, they failed right away or ran fine. Make sure they run well while hot, if the optic is out over the barrel nut or barrel, it will get plenty hot from radiated heat plus desert sun.

There is an ongoing discussion at ARFCOM over a problem with two individual EOtech sights that have had the reticles disappear during high heat. It appears to be a case of individual defective sights and not design defect since the same people reporting the problem report that other EOtechs run fine in the same conditions.
 
I am both an Aimpoint and EOTech dealer. I personally like the EOTech over the Aimpoint. I believe that it is the fastest optic on target, has a better FOV and works better with NV. I get a lot of Aimpoint's returned for malfunctions so no optic is perfect. You cannot go wrong with either one so you just need to get some trigger time with both and make the choice for yourself...


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I'm curious about these sights. I've never used one, but have looked through some else's ACOG sight and really liked it. Are they as durable as everyone on this thread says? I've heard about trainers (I think John Fahrnam - spelling - was one) who say that when it hits the fan you can't count on electronic sights but should use iron sights since they never fail. They always talk about how so and so had trouble in a class because his batteries failed, or it just didn't work properly.

Also, how does the ACOG compare the two sights mentioned in this thread?

Thanks
 
Are they as durable as everyone on this thread says?
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ACOGs, Aimpoints and EOtechs are all very rugged optics that can stand up to heavy use.

I've heard about trainers (I think John Fahrnam - spelling - was one) who say that when it hits the fan you can't count on electronic sights but should use iron sights since they never fail. They always talk about how so and so had trouble in a class because his batteries failed, or it just didn't work properly.
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My answer to Mr. Farnam would be tha optics are faster and easier to use for the vast majority of shooters. With the dot-sights like an Aimpoint or EOtech, you can accurately make shots that would be impossible with iron sights. You also have the advantage of being able to focus on the target in a single plane rather than worrying about three different sight planes to focus on (rear sight, front sight, target).

I can still have irons mounted to the rifle as back-up should the optic (primary) fail - so the worst case scenario Mr. Farnam outlines (optics fail) means that I go back to the same level he is already at - iron sights.

Also, how does the ACOG compare the two sights mentioned in this thread?
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There are many different varieties of ACOG. Most of them are magnified sights with some form of tritium illumination. In my view the best ones are the ones designed around the BAC concept that use a combination of tritium and fiber optic light collectors to always illuminate the reticle. These can be used well at any range; though they still tend to be slower than the sights mentioned here close-in.

The two sights in this thread don't magnify at all but are very fast for acquiring and hitting targets. They are a little less precise at longer ranges compared to an ACOG; but usually faster in the <50yds. category where a lot of shootings take place both for military and civilians.

Check out this thread:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=139306
 
Non-magnified and ready.

I have an Aimpoint ML and have seen the Eotech. Overall for dependency in these battery systems, the Aimpoint is the one.

It is a simple matter. The Eotech as someone mentioned is more advanced. Yes it is, and makes for fun plinking. However the durability factor is obvious when compared against the eotech, and for combat (like I am not in) I don't see the advantage. Iron sights are great too. Also the double AA's and size of the eotech are also not something I would depend on for long term. They are both good to shoot, but the Aimpoint is built to last and is very simple. K.I.S.S.
 
I prefer the Eotech, and I've seen enough operators in Iraq and Afghanistan to know that they're obviously the preference of some serious soldiers.

That said, buy whatever blows your skirt up. Next time ask whether you should buy and AK or an AR so the expert peanut gallery can beat a tired old horse.
 
I think what Mark is saying is someone with an EOTech send it to the guy so he can try it out! I don't have either one, but if I had one laying around I think I would ship it to a soldier and fellow THR member for him to try out so he has a better chance of coming back to us after his tour. I would like to thank someone for taking this nice gesture. He will probably even pay for the shipping back! Consider it your part for the war effort. Hell do it for the Gipper!!! :D
 
One of the employees at Lightfighter brought in his M4 with an EOtech for me to see today. Wow! I like it more than the Aimpoint. Can't shoot it as the guy isn't going to let me borrow his pre-ban M-4 with all the bells in whistles. But, I'm leaning towards the EOTech now.

Mark
 
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