ak side mount on a Mosin Nagant

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Hello folks i am new to forums. i bought my first rifle a few days back and now i feel like a true American. Oh yeah!! Anyway it is an all matching Mosin Nagant. The bore is in good shape. i however wanted to know if any of you have seen or personally installed an Ak side mount on a Mosin and what the results were. I also wanted to know if it is feasable. As for the purists i respect your opinion, but my opinion is that there are more mosins than there are stars in the sky, so having a little fun with one of them is no harm. thanks for your opinions they are appreciated.
 
Cheap reproduction P/U scope and mount kits are readily available. I don't think it would be worth the hassle to engineer an AK mount.

I have a Tula decommissioned sniper that I "re-commissioned" with authentic base, mount, and scope. It is a fine shooter, and gets a lot of attention. Fitting the original P/U scope does require some work, but is pretty simple for mechanically inclined people. Just my .02
 
First gun?

Welcome , responsible Citizen :)

An Ak mount woud require milling a perfectly flat area to place the mount, something a bit tricky as the round reciver wall isnt the thickest and the curve not conductive to a reasonable ammount of surface area to support the mount.
Also, the AK mount places the scope rather high oon the AK, 'cause its a fairly 'high' reciver, and the AK mount on a Mosin would likely place the scope in a very high and shootable akward position.

You can find mounts like the PU or just buy a real Russian made PU scoped M-91/30 for about 600$ or so. Or you can get a mount from a place called accumounts.com and look in the mosin section. The PE scope set up solderd and screwd atop forward on the reciver would be the easiest to get done "Right" with an as issued M91/30. Soldering, drilling and tapping with no machining and the same or better results.

As well, a bolt with a bent handle is nessessar to use a scope on the rifle too.

A nice Russian built and issued PU scoped Russian refurb would be cheaper in the long run.

To collector shooters, the original isnt only cheaper, but its "authentic', so it would keep its $$ value rather than lose it but building a 'fake' sniper for equal or more $.

Great Gun, your now a Rifleman, buy a good cleaning kit, and you need to practise practise and practise some more.

Before you shoot, dissassemble and clean the rifle meticulasly.
Remove all grease and cosmoline a wax like preservative.

be sure to scrub the chamber with a brake cleaner or a strong solvent. Buy a good cleaning kit and cleanthe rifle EVERY time you shoot it. A swiss military "roll up" type .30 cal cleaning kits is very good for such. It has a chamber scrub brush and you clean from the chamber end.

Find and keep the tools and sling that should come with the rifle, and learn how to use them, they are all that you need to keep your rifle for your life time.

If you use common "corrosively primed ammo" you need only add the extra step of boiling water and pouring through the chamber side, and brushing, then rinse and then finnisih up with solvents, patches and oil to protect the bare steel.
Suprizingly, hot water isnt bad for your bore, it dissolves the salts used in the priming and flushes them out, preventing horrific rusting. Standard Soviet practise when they didnt have aques solvents to issue. The heat of the water heats the barrel and its self drying in less than a minute, and with solvent and patches after , a snap to keep in perfect order, with a light coat of oil to protect the bare steel of the bore from rust and air moisture.

If your bolt becomes "sticky' or just hard to open, you need to clean it.
pay good attention to the chamber, and locking recesses in the reciver where the bolt lugs rotate into.

To use the safty properly, hold the rifle as if you were gonna shoot it, then lower the buttplate into the crook of you are/elbow. Keep ahold of the forend with your left hand, remove your right hand from grasping the stock behind the trigger. Then reach with thumb and forfinger to the bolts cocking knob at the rearmost onthebolt. Then Grasp it firmly and pull back and rotate to the left. It will engauge a knotch on the left side rear of the reciver and lock the bolt shut and utterly impossible to fire.
To remove the safty, place the butt in the same place in the crook and regrasp the knob, turning it to the right, and it will go forward slightly. It is aagian ready to fire.
Useing the crook of your arm doubles you strength because your bicept and forarm work together and make useing the safety easy.

I like Mosin Nagants, ALOT!!!!!! Your off to a great start.

Carry on.
 
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No need to double post. I answered you on your last post.

Hello folks i am new to forums. i bought my first rifle a few days back and now i feel like a true American. Oh yeah!! Anyway it is an all matching Mosin Nagant. The bore is in good shape. i however wanted to know if any of you have seen or personally installed an Ak side mount on a Mosin and what the results were. I also wanted to know if it is feasable. As for the purists i respect your opinion, but my opinion is that there are more mosins than there are stars in the sky, so having a little fun with one of them is no harm. thanks for your opinions they are appreciated.

Why a side mount? What type of optic are you wanting to use? If a scope like the mosin sniper go to kalinka optics and get a pu mount and get a pu scope for it.

PU scope mount
http://kalinkaoptics.com/mounts/pu...t-for-original-pu-rails-26-5mm-rings-705.html

Rail to mount it to.
http://kalinkaoptics.com/pu-mosin-nagant-original-rail-w-screws-set.html

Pu scope
http://kalinkaoptics.com/rifle-scopes/pu-91-30-scope-for-sniper-mosin-nagant-91-30-2048.html

If you want just a regular scope like say a 3x9x40 then you can either get the low profile ati mount or the rock solid scope mount both of these sit on top of the receiver. The pu mount is a side mount.
 
"If your bolt becomes 'sticky' or just hard to open, you need to clean it."

Take care on setting the firing pin protrusion when you reassemble it. Use the gauge you probably got with your rifle:
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There's also a slight problem in single-loading cartridges without feeding them from the magazine, which can be solved by judicious and careful polishing of the extractor hook, which doesn't ride over the rim very easily.

Also, it's been a while since I played with one, but I think it's possible to reassemble the bolt incorrectly so it can fire a cartridge and come apart on you. Someone verify this for me, please. ???

Terry
 
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thanks for the info. there was an ak mount that is height adjustable too. the reason i thought this would be great is because i can have a full power scope and have the mount high enough to keep and use irons too.
 
i realize that but i will be restricted to the scope it is intended for which does not have the desired power. it would be low powerd 3.2x or something in that ballpark.
 
If your going to modify it anyway, why not just drill/tap, install normal mounts and use QD rings? Seems both easier and more cost effective.
 
a drill and tap will not allow me to use iron sights. i also like the russian look of it even though it may not be accurate when it comes to the history and time.
 
Sounds like you need to get a p/u base and mount. The mounts are steel so you could cut and modify it to hold any scope you want.

For what its worth, the 3.5 power soviet scope has done me well. I shoot out to 200 yards regularly and it does just fine. Most of these rifles wouldn't benefit from a better scope because they (or the ammo) isn't accurate enough to shoot those distances.
 
does anybody have experiance with this scope mount? it looks solid but you never know. this is courtesy of Gun and Game forum.


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^ Good experience with a side-mounted Redfield 12X on my ancient Savage in .223 Rem. Needed a side mount because it's a split receiver. Holds zero very well, at least under the moderate recoil of the .223. 3/8" groups with it at 100 measured yards, good enough for prairie rats out to 250 long steps if there's no wind and I don't have too much coffee that morning.

I also have a side mount scope on an M1 carbine. Not too bad, but the Carbine's not accurate enough to really comment on the mount's adequacy.
 
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I have a Chinese type 53 version of the Mosin Nagant m44 . It has a MN stock as the Chinese one was toast. The stock was stripped and oiled , with a coat of wax when I got it . I added a sleve type recoil pad and ground down the bayonet lug and polished it with an emory board, finishing with some cold blue. I'm using the iron sights and very happy with them .
As to cleaning , windex with amonia was recomended. It takes a bit of work as the surplus ammo is filthy, but the bore comes out shiney clean.I use comercial bore cleaner after that and finish up with a coat of gun oil. I enjoy it very much its accurate and fun to shoot.
 
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