AK47 variants with folding stocks

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I am in the market for a 'concealable rifle'. Something that won't stick out too much from under a jacket. I've done some searching and it seems that some AK47 variant is the ticket.

Which model/type do you recommend?

Is an under folding stock better than a side folder?

Where do you buy these guns from? They aren't for sale in my local gun stores.

Thanks
 
Just curious, why do you want a concealable rifle?:uhoh: Handguns are easier and more practical for concealed carry just so you know:neener:

Use caution if you plan to conceal an AK in public you may be asking for trouble even if you have a CCL.

Anyway I would look at the Yugo M70B2 with the underfolding stock, its higher quality than your average Romanian. The Hungarian AMD-65 is a pretty decent side-folder and can be had for under $450.

I prefer the side folder to the underfolder myself but neither one really holds my interest. I find both uncomfortable to shoot and I have no practical reason for needing a folder. All my AK's have fixed stocks and that's the way I prefer em.

As far as where to buy, well short of giving you a bunch of online sites to go to, you may want to give us your location, maybe someone can suggest a place to go.

Again, I'm curious why you want a concealable rifle, some may read what you posted and get the wrong impression.
 
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Use caution if you plan to conceal an AK in public you may be asking for trouble even if you have a CCL.
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Depending on the state, long guns cannot be "concealed" (no matter if they are under your coat).

To phrase it another way: in Texas, a long gun cannot legally be described as a "concealed weapon". I'm quite sure that if you have it under your coat and causing alarm, they can get you for 'disturbing the peace', or similar.
 
Please continue, the antis should love this. Can I be the first to offer that THR does not condone concealing a rifle in your jacket. Sorry if I am reading this wrong and am out of line here.
 
As to why: The police confiscated lawful firearms in the disaster area New Orleans.

I don't think that open carry of long arms is a successful tactic. I think that unless things get really terribly bad my AR15 or M14 would be a liability or at the very least the cops would steal it.

Needless to say, I can imagine situations where only having a handgun would be a bummer.

A short barreled rifle with a folding stock would (for the most part) tuck nicely under a longer jacket. The barrel might stick out an inch or two, but that beats having a long gun slung over my shoulder.

/If we limit ourselves to what the antis love, we wouldn't have much to talk about at all.
 
Sorry my friend but this just has bad idea written all over it. Not only would it be cumbersome to walk around with a rifle under your coat but it would probably draw a lot of unwanted attention. I'm all about the right to carry, but personally if I saw someone walking around trying to conceal an AK I would be a little nervous.

Maybe its just me but rifles are good for home defense but unless you're a soldier I don't see any point in carrying one around with you wherever you go. Things may be bad where you live but a handgun is still probably the most practical means of self defense. I have trouble imagining a self defense scenario that would require more than a handgun, unless you live in Baghdad or something.

Sorry to rain on your parade its just how I see it, but hey its your call do what you want. Just because I wouldn't do it doesn't mean that it shouldn't or cant be done as long as you are certain that you obey the law.

Good luck with that, I'm sure others will have different views on the subject.
 
Don't let your imaginations run away with you.

I know it is awful fun to pretend and imagine a ridiculous image of a man trying unsuccessfully to hide a rifle under his coat and its fine to laugh it up.

But that isn't the question or the intention and if you can't see the value of being able to tuck your rifle quickly out of sight and how a folding stock would help facilitate such tucking, its no sweat off my back.

/Thanks for the tips on the rifles models.
 
The "less obvious" rifle is not so ridiculous, in some situations (trying to make your way home, on foot, after a Katrina-style disaster (earthquake, other highway-blocking incident, etc.). Not for daily wear, folks. A folding-stocked AK can be unobtrusivly socked away in a bag designed for a folding chair; not quick-draw material, but could provide additional range/penetration if a situation/opportunity for deployment arose. Just another tool for some toolboxes.

Personally, I think plastic-framed pistols are a ridiculous idea, and shouldn't be discussed on THR . . .:neener:
 
Is an under folding stock better than a side folder?
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Without getting into the good idea/bad idea debate, I personally like the side folders better as a shooter, but I think the underfolder would be a little more compact (thinner with stock folded).

Where do you buy these guns from? They aren't for sale in my local gun stores.
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Plenty of places carry them online for FFL transfers. Atlantic Firearms is one big online AK vendor.
 
Katrina was a long time ago and we're unlikely to ever see a repeat where you'll need to rely on yourself in such a manner...

I really like the standard fixed stock variant of AK with the romanian/east german side folder. Extremely solid lockup and a robust construction. Easier to engage/fold/open than an underfolder, can do so with mags inserted. I don't have a side rail on my underfolder--does that interfere with its operation?

For obvious reasons, this topic can make law abiding gun owners antsy--but you've expressed no illegal intent. Be smart and don't end up with a boyfriend you don't want.
 
I've done some vermin eradication with airguns before in places where I didn't want to be seen with a rifle and in my opinion, the best way to hide a long gun is to sling it upside down and to wear appropriate clothing. A poncho is probably best and if the barrel sticks out you can tie a rag or something around it to help disguise it.
 
The "wire" side folders are the better folder.(the best is the AK100 series folding "full" stock) They are easily deployed (or closed) and rock solid when open. They also shoulder and shoot just like a standard stock.

As for some of the comments "WOW" sums it up the best. :rolleyes:

Why on earth would you want to conceal a rifle under a coat?
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Why do you care?

Maybe its just me but rifles are good for home defense but unless you're a soldier I don't see any point in carrying one around with you wherever you go.
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It must be you. I dont see a problem with it. If done properly, you'd never know anyway. Oh, and what do soldiers have to do with any of this?

Please continue, the antis should love this. Can I be the first to offer that THR does not condone concealing a rifle in your jacket. Sorry if I am reading this wrong and am out of line here.
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Are you the official spokes person for THR? Who cares what the anti's think? They dont like ANY of your guns, so your fancy O/U Clays gun or hunting rifle are no different to them than my AK's, AR's, MAC's, or MP5, just farther down the list. If we dont stick up for each other and ALL the shooting sports you'll be sawing off those nice engraved barrels and calling that 7mm a "snipers" rifle before to long and wishing all those "strange" people with their "bad" guns were around to help you.
 
The M1 carbine with a folding stock is downright tiny and very light. It doesn't shoot a rifle round, but you do get the benefit of a shoulder fired weapon with a long sight radius. With softpoints, it would certainly do the job out to 100 yards(which is way beyond self defense range unless the very unlikely happens and someone has you pinned down with gunfire). The M1 also has much better sights than the AK.
 
Can I be the first to offer that THR does not condone concealing a rifle in your jacket. Sorry if I am reading this wrong and am out of line here.
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Probably not under my jacket, but I'd keep a concealed rifle in some situations, but unfortunately my CCL is for handguns only.

Don't let the anti-gun propaganda brainwash you. A carbine is much more accurate than a handgun and has much better stopping power. I would feel much more confident in hitting and stopping my target with something like an AR15, .357 lever gun or M1 carbine than I would with any handgun. Especially if there are multiple attackers.

Katrina was a long time ago and we're unlikely to ever see a repeat where you'll need to rely on yourself in such a manner...
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I certainly hope you are right, but history has a nasty habit of repeating itself. Mostly because folks dismiss past events as old news and consider the lessons learned as frivolous or paranoid when life becomes normal again.
 
I'm pretty sure that a WASR with a tapco compliance set on it (trigger, handguard, sidefolding stock, etc..) would fit the bill just fine. Should conceal on your side nicely, with the butt of the reciever tucked in your armpit.

Maybe you should ahve stated a reason for this question, not that it really matters, in your original post. If you think it's a loaded question, an explaination is generally in order.


On a side note, would it be legal to mount a "potato grip light mount" on the Kelt-Tec PLR-16? It's technically not a vertical grip, is it? Would that attract the attention of the alphabet soup agencies?
 
I'm big enough I can hide most 16 to 18 inch long guns under my coat easily.

There are quite a few situations where it would be useful to carry a gun under your coat.

On your property walking around but not wanting to alarm people.

Bodyguard, or security guard again on private property.

Heck having a folding stock also makes the gun more manageable when working inside of your house or storing it next to the bed or in a case.

I'd say got with a Saiga .223 or 7.62x39. Convert it and slap in an ACE receiver block + folder + and stock and you're golden.

Should be able to get it all done for under $700.
 
M92 Krink registered SBR (Short barreled rifle) ya will have to do a background check and pay an extra $200 for the tax stamp but then ya have the slimness of an underfolder mated to a 10" barrel go with 7.62x39 for caliber...... all the accuracy of a standard AK actually depending on the builder it can be better as the rear sight is mounted at the rear of the dustcover with a peep ya got fast target aquasition etc... they were designed to be carried under a coat on a single point sling
 
I understand why a folding stock rifle is attractive. But I think a bag or some sort would be more practical. Something like a tennis racket bag or something are like that. That said on a couple of raids I carried a folding stock shot gun under a jean jacket. But these were just short walks. I don't know how viable it would have been as a BO gun.

The under folder AK with a 20 (or smaller) round mag would be the most compact package. But I hear it not the most comfortable to shoot. (I don't have one). Those that don't like the under folder usually recommend the wire side folder. I have and have used the Tapco side folder. It does increase the thickness of the package. It folds to the right, which isn't a problem for me. But I'm a lefty. But it does fell good to shoot.
 
The Yugo underfolders have a lot to recommend them, but they are heavy. My Yugo underfolder is substantially heavier than my Polish fixed stock. It can legitimately be described as more compact than the fixed stock version, but it isn't handier and it is no way "concealable" especially with a magazine seated. I'm having trouble picturing how one could conceal it under a coat in such a way that it could be brought to bear on an opponent with any degree of speed.
 
There is a fella here in town called the "Trench Coat Bandit" who carried an AK under his coat. He is going to prison.

Good luck.
 
The only folder I would have is the Russian side folder. I my opinion, it's the only one that doesn't compromise the rifle's shootability. They are tough and lock solidly. BSW

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I am in the market for a 'concealable rifle'. Something that won't stick out too much from under a jacket. I've done some searching and it seems that some AK47 variant is the ticket.

Which model/type do you recommend?

Is an under folding stock better than a side folder?

Where do you buy these guns from? They aren't for sale in my local gun stores.

Thanks
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I have a feeling I'll see you on the news somewhat soon. Thanks for the free ACLU fodder, too.
 
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