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AK's how long till prices return to normal?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by wacki, Nov 24, 2008.

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  1. wacki

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    Lets pretend Obama & Congress wait 2 years (after mid-term election) to push an AWB. Are prices likely to return to normal in that time? How long do you think it will take? Given the ease of AK production, I would think it wouldn't be that hard for supply to meet demand.

    I'm really starting to get the itch for an AK.:evil:
     
  2. TexAg

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    If they go one year without a hint of a new AWB prices MIGHT come down some...just some though. That's my guess.
     
  3. H2O MAN

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    5 to 10 years...
     
  4. Gunfighter123

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    At LEAST 4 years !!! I think he will do the same thing as Slick Willy did -- -no "outright bans" , but he/they will shut down hard on new imports.
     
  5. Loomis

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    Speaking as one that has bought multiple EBRs this year due to the possibility of a ban(not to mention several handguns and enormous amounts of ammo)...I am very pessimistic that I did the right thing. I think this is all going to blow over soon and prices will get back to normal.

    However, just in case I'm wrong, I went on a buying splurge that lasted about 6 months and ended today. I'm going to start rebuilding my stockpile of food now.

    Better safe than sorry.
     
  6. geojap

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    Never, IMO
     
  7. RyanM

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    In only 2 years? Not a chance. I only see prices coming down if someone else is elected next term, with no AWB in the interim..
     
  8. armoredman

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    Normal pricing is what the market will bear. Will we see $300 WASRs again? Highly unlikely, but it could happen!
     
  9. gandog56

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    Probably never.
     
  10. MyRoad

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    I posted this on another forum in response to the same question regarding AR's:

    The possibility exists that in six to twelve months, long before an AWB could be put in place, the economy will be bottoming out and people won't be able to pay the inflated prices anymore. Simultaneously, many of the people who bought them just to hoard them or try and resell them at a profit, will be out of work (or working short weeks) and financially hurting themselves, and will be dumping their 'extra' rifles on the market. Those combined influences would create a buyers market again, with supply ahead of demand and prices being low.

    Just one possibility.
     
  11. NetJunkie

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    The problem with AKs is that all the parts kits are gone. The builders can't make anymore as they aren't allowed to bring in full kits anymore..only kits without barrels. So unless a lot of guns bought by panic buyers hit the market I don't think you'll ever see AKs go back down.
     
  12. MyRoad

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    Good point, I didn't think about that, guess my previous statement does not apply.
     
  13. Shade00

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    There are still Saigas coming in.
     
  14. HorseSoldier

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    +1 on the supply of parts kits being burned through. This might allow WASR prices, even, to remain higher than they were (less competition and such) even if there's no governmental interference.

    On the plus side (still assuming no governmental interference) the various former Warsaw Pact countries that adopted 5.56mm AK variants will eventually replace them with something else. Maybe we'll see a surge of Polish Beryls, Serbian M21s, and Bulgarian 5.56 AK kits coming in five or ten years down the line.
     
  15. Kurt

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    Wow Horse, that's a mighty BIG assumption.
    Especially with the Gov't that'll be in place. :)

    I not only believe that the tactical type of stuff pricing will
    remain elevated, I think we'll see the better grades of the
    more "normal" stuff will rise in price, and become harder to find too.
    Those may prove to be the more untouchable, lifetime, hand-me-down
    type of firearms and most folks will see the wisdom of getting a higher
    quality piece (or ten) in that category.
     
  16. HorseSoldier

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    Oh yeah -- definitely. Thought I'd mention a possible good scenario, even if it's a longshot.
     
  17. Ignition Override

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    'Roger' that. Combining your astute comments with those of people who grasp past politics (unless Obama is stupid), i.e. how many Congressional seats were lost due to the AWB, it could be a while before the new regime can take its focus away from the financial crisis. Don't get me wrong, any sneaky trick in the Senate is possible, but without some highly-publicized psycho shooting (esp. young)people with a rifle using a high-cap. magazine, maybe not.

    There will be so many more layoffs before the bottom is reached, that huge numbers of people will be only worried about a paycheck or repossesed roof over their heads (and medical ins.). An AWB or ammo tax won't help them and could hurt many.
    There is concern among many experienced financial professionals (not just the academics) that if a domino-effect takes place, we could end up in a depression. This is certainly not just the US. The national debt will be a huge problem for my son's generation and later, even without a depression when he fairly soon finishes college. Obama's team has much more to lose in the beginning than after 2-3 years in power. The economy might determine that, plus or minus an Israeli air strike on Iran's facilities etc (fuel prices...).
     
  18. Odnar

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    After seeing gas at $165/gallon again yesterday, I'll remain optimistic that they'll come back down.
     
  19. Loomis

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    $1.53/gal where I am. And that was yesterday. I fully expect to see it under a buck and a half before turkey day.
     
  20. Thin Black Line

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    You'll find "cheap" AKs and gas <$1 when you don't have a job and you
    have more important things to pay for first like food and shelter (and heat
    if you live up north).

    BTW, Clinton did not wait 2 years into term to get his AWB turned into law.
    I also recall a chance to road-block the original AWB as a bill on the Hill over
    Thanksgiving that was "missed". When the next one happens, it will happen
    fast.

    Other possible scenario: no rifle ban, but continue parts import ban and
    include all surplus mil ammo in an EO. AKs drop in price because feeding
    them costs $20+/box of ammo. Great Depression II is underway and shooting
    for entertainment/practice is too expensive for Joe 6-Pack. Again, Joe has
    the choice between paying real bills and buying his 6 pack or going shooting.
    Joe No-pack buys 6-Pack's AK for $150 and two boxes of ammo and considers
    it a good "deal". He shoots one box and throws the AK and 1 box in the
    closet.

    Add in:
    The Great O promises a fedgov debit [debt] card which will put a Turkey in
    every oven every T-day, doesn't do a new AWB, creates 1/2 the jobs he's
    already indicated for a new deal national infrastructure project and is
    re-elected for a second term. However, due to unemployment, crime is
    rampant in many areas. There are many murders, shootings, etc. During
    the Great O's second term, a new AWB is passed which will "fix" the crime
    problem. Money from the infrastructure projects has trickled through-out
    the economy and there has been some improvement (also because people
    have re-learned how to get by with less). But, the Great O's AWB will be
    hailed as the actual fix for the crime problem. There is no grandfather
    clause in O's AWB. Remaining rifles climb in price due to normal supply/demand
    and new shooters coming of age with jobs want them. Ammo remains very
    expensive. However, the crime problem is down due to the normal generational
    cycle in which the previous violent subpopulation has aged out and/or been
    imprisoned. The younger generation have found their appropriate job niche
    in society, or are in higher ed, or are off fighting a larger war overseas. They
    don't think of crime as a means to fulfill their needs/wants/desires.

    Did I miss anything?
     
  21. y2k600f4

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    I guess I missed the window to add a "reasonably" priced AK to my collections. Really wanted to get a Saiga 7.62x39 sporting rifle and do the conversion but I can't find any and plus the rifle + conversion will run $500++. I was considering a Romanian WASR-10 but no luck there either. Maybe I have to settle with a Ruger mini-30 ?? Any suggestions. Thanks.
     
  22. Coronach

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    Prices may never drop to $350/AK again, but it will not remain at $500/AK forever if there is no movement on the AWB front. Assuming there are no serious moves for restrictions on possession or importation of "evil" guns, lots of people that have been out buying will relax and some of them will even sell. This, combined with all of the dealers stocking up, will lead to a market flush with product and light on buyers.

    Note that the above scenario includes a massive assumption that may not be met.

    Mike
     
  23. nachosgrande

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    "There are still Saigas coming in."

    Just wondering where they are, I've been calling all online retailers and all brick and mortars within 2 hours drive for weeks and can't get one.
     
  24. lipadj46

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    no one knows, it is all speculation at this point. It all depends on Obama's actions the first months and the economy.
     
  25. Boxing Buffalo

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    I just bought a Saiga in 7.62 last week. It was $50 more than it was before all the paranoia.

    There are plenty out there.
     
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