Alan Gura (Heller lawyer) on NPR

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I think we all want sensible gun laws. I think the reason people here respond badly to the phrase is because the antis use it to mean 'no guns for anyone but the elite.'

The great thing is that Gura is exposing their hypocrisy by giving them what they claim to want - gun laws that really are sensible (i.e. you do not lose your gun rights because your crackhead neighbor felon-in-possession abuses his).
 
you do not lose your gun rights because your crackhead neighbor felon-in-possession abuses his

That's how eminent domain under Kelo can work, though. We've still got a long, long way to go to get things put right and it's going to take comprehensive reform of more than just gun laws.
 
The problem with “sensible gun laws” is that they are not always sensibly enforced, and they are seldom effective in accomplishing what they are supposed to. It is pretty clear that such things that are required of the law-abiding; such as permits to purchase, owner and gun licensing, background checks, various forms to be filled out at the time of purchase, licenses or permits to own or carry a weapon, etc. have little effect on practicing or would-be criminals who simply ignore this whole body of statutes.

The Supreme Court in its wisdom has decided that the Second Amendment confers an individual right to own and possess firearms, but somehow they missed the part where it said this right, “shall not be infringed.” Thus it allows for specific and unspecified restrictions and regulation of this right that would be intolerable if applied to other rights in the first ten and other later amendments.

Sadly I understand that without compromising the clear language in the Second Amendment we could have never gotten the ruling that we did with a squeaker vote of 5 to 4. We can also be sure that in places like California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, and cities like Washington DC, Chicago, and San Francisco; a doctrine of “Aggressive Regulation” will soon be in place which may in effect comprise a de facto ban for all practical purposes.

I respect Mr. Gura for all of what he and his associates have accomplished, but he apparently is willing to accept far more then I am.
 
I think we all want sensible gun laws. I think the reason people here respond badly to the phrase is because the antis use it to mean 'no guns for anyone but the elite.'

Exactly!

Sensible gun laws for me are:

* No felon ownership needs to be a case by case basis.

* Gun safety taught in school and at home.

* No ownership for people adjudicated as mentally dangerous.

Can't think of anything else that would be needed.... :confused:
 
You cannot give a liberal anything. They will not stop.

I have a liberal friend who says that I would disagree with him if he said the sun was shining. I told him only if he prefaced the statement with "I think we all can agree..."

When you hear those words say "no we can't", and grab your belongings and values and walk away.
 
>Can't think of anything else that would be needed....

How about "persons incarcerated in jail are not allowed to have guns with them while they are in jail" :neener:
 
Gura won't make any friends here with his interview ("sensible gun laws"), but this interview is what is going in front of the enemy.

Who's the enemy - NPR? IMO, NPR is the most balanced of them all, and since it's Public radio, if you don't think they're covering your side fairly, speak up!
 
I caught the tail end of that interview. Gura seemed honestly surprised that it was only 5-4, he really thought it was going to go 6-3 but he was still happy with the win.

I agree that NPR is more balanced than most. They don't make as many idiotic statements as most new organizations.
 
"sensible gun laws" would be those that require gun safety courses in public school - starting in kindergarten.
We have a "Right" to Keep and Bear. Which leaves where and how you may discharge the firearm open to regulation as to appropriateness.
there are SCOTUS precidents as to licensing and taxing a right (Any recognised right) - all of which say it's a no go.
 
... there are SCOTUS precidents as to licensing and taxing a right (Any recognised right) - all of which say it's a no go.

But they seem to be saying that guns are an exception. :(
 
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