ALERT!-primer info

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i posted this in another thread, but thought id post it here to:

small rifle primers,youd best grab them whilst ya can. one of my best friends works for ATK industries in the managment section of one of there subsidaries. i personally spoke to a friend of his thats been with CCI for the last 17 years. she said that she went into shipping late this last week, and they had small rifle primers stacked floor to ceiling on palets, BUT the problem we run into is this. its only a SMALL PERCENTAGE of there normal production. they have stepped up there military contract manufacturing in primers, so they got a portion. then, they tok the large majority of what was left and put it towards loading ammunition ( she said the market will get flooded with CCI ammo comming in the next couple of weeks to 30 days). she said what was left has went to fill backorders. she also said that they are so backordered right now, unless your already on a backorder list with a retailer or wholeseller, you may not see ANY primers in the next 12 to 18 months....yes, you read that right , TWELVE TO EIGHTEEN MONTHS.

PERSONALLY, im pretty much set to ride out the storm. i saw it comming and piled up on reloading components.

point is, if you have the protunity to pick primers and powder up, youd better grab it. powders getting almost as hard to find. before you know it, we will be cutting the tops off of shotgun shells and working loads up with shotgun powder!
 
All this thread is doing is adding to the ridiculousness that is already going on. Way to fuel the flames of panic buying.
 
Yesturday I bought 1000 primers, a pound of powder and a box of lead.
I got the last box of primers but there was plenty of powder.
 
"...its only a SMALL PERCENTAGE of there normal production. they have stepped up there military contract manufacturing in primers..."

I don't know the facts behind this of course but it's hard to imagine that CCI, etc, are so far behind on small rifle caps due to military orders when the firing part of those conflicts are at perhaps the lowest level they've been in years.

Primers are only a small portion of ammo manufactoring. Seems Federal, Remington and Winchester should be supplying primers for their own mil. production so... who's getting so much from CCI?
 
It just boggles the mind that people keep starting these threads. Everybody knows that primers are in short supply so why add to the problem by fanning the fire and urging people to hoard more? The result is that people who would actually be using them can't get them because somebody is sitting on a pile of 10k primers that are gathering dust in his basement.

Rookie move.
 
I heard from my neighbor's brother-in-law who heard at a gun show from a guy who fixes appliances, he said he was fixing a dryer at this ATF agent's house and heard them talking about how they are going to demand that all imported primers and all primers made after 10JUN2009 will be required to have a chemical agent in them that renders them inactive after two years, that this was signed into law by President Obamma by Executive Order, and that's why there's a primer shortage, because all the imported primers had to be delayed while the chemical additive was prepared and sprayed onto the primers. They had to unpack and open each tray and that was time consuming. You can tell which ones had the process done because they have Scotch tape holding the primer trays shut because the seal was broken when they opened them to spray.

So if you have older primers, better store them well because the new ones won't last.

The ATF is also adding chemical taggants to firearms propellants (gunpowder) that will enable them to trace them to individual reloaders who bought batches of powder, too, and that's why the powder is slow in getting out. They are doing all powders that would be vital to load military style rifle first which is why they are the scarcest. The computer database is so massive they had to have the hardware designed by a Silicone Valley company and borrowed the software from the NSA.
 
I am on a back order list and I am well stocked so if I have to wait 12 months I'll be ok. I'm sitting on 22 pounds of powder and 12K in primers. I just hate those people that are always repared! :neener:
 
Okay Democrat, are we going to limit people on how many nascar collectibles, gold coins, or whatever else people can have?

All I'm seeing is sour grapes from those who spent their money on other stuff for the last several years and are now mad they can't get ammo or components for Oct, 2008 pricing. I don't feel sorry for those who blew their money on non essentials and are now upset at all the "gouging" going on. If you couldn't see this day coming, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
/\ Naaah, seriously, did anybody believe that fecal impaction I just posted? Seriously?

:lol:

Yes, I do. Because my wifes aunt is sleeping with a guy who's brother drinks beer at the bar with THAT SAME appliance repairman. So it has got to be true. He told me about the numbers the government is implanting on every bullet as well.

Gotta go put some more tinfoil up on the windows now... :)
 
I haven't purchased primers since 2007. Probably won't need to until mid-2010.
 
Hey, he did say that CCI would be "flooding" the market with ammo in a couple of weeks.... that would be a good thing, if it's true.
 
I can't believe the OP for one very good reason, CCI just laid off a bunch of workers in their primer plant. (FACT) They were originally hired in 2006 to aid in catching up on back orders and since they have caught up, they were let go. Why would CCI lay off workers if they weren't flush with primers? For some reason primers, powder and ammo isn't being shipped. My guess, they are trying to cash in on the panic and the less they ship the higher the prices climb.

Read it Here or Google it for yourself...
 
everything on Goggle is Always.... correct! :rolleyes:
Where did I say that? Besides, Google doesn't tell you anything, they are a search engine. All I was telling everyone was to check for themselves. The Google suggestion was just a tool to find a source that was known as reliable.

No reason to act like that, really!
 
are we going to limit people on how many nascar collectibles, gold coins, or whatever else people can have?

I didn't say anyone should limit anything. Please re-read my post.

I said folks shouldn't exacerbate the component shortage by promoting panic.

If you can use 50k primers in the foreseeable future, then buy 50k primers. If you shoot three boxes of ammo a year and just decided to buy 100k primers so you can sit on them and brag in internet forums about how many primers you have, then I suggest you re-evaluate your purchasing habits because you're part of the problem not the solution. The only person who should impose any limits is the person who is buying more primers than they are ever going to use.

As for hearsay panic posts, well, let's just say that it doesn't seem much in the spirit of The High Road.
 
I have more primers than I NEED...

BUT

Its way less than 5k even, so I'm not even a dent in the problem.

I shoot mostly .22lr now, and kinda always have. Might have to get the airguns shooting! havnt seen any pellet shortages ;)
 
jcwit
"Hey aren't we glad people can't hoard gasoline and fuel like they can ammo and primers. "


Er ... I do actually. I have fifty gallons in military jerry cans as we speak.
 
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