BHPshooter
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I can point-shoot pretty decently, and can freehand sketch fairly well -- I'm a little out of practice though (at drawing 
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Great thread.
Wes
)Great thread.
Wes
All handgunners, please take this poll - I have a theory on point shooting...
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spacemanspiff
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i'm somewhat okay at point shooting, and i can sketch abstract images. instead of having an idea of what i am about to draw, the hand does all the work. kind of like 'instinctive drawing', if you will.
ask me to draw something specific, and i couldnt do it. not even a stick figure.
but this leads me to a side question...what distance would you judge your point shooting skills at? i use 5-7 yards, and occasionally will use discolored clumps of dirt in the backstop 50 yds out. its satisfying to see the clump disappear in clouds of dust/dirt over and over again.
ask me to draw something specific, and i couldnt do it. not even a stick figure.
but this leads me to a side question...what distance would you judge your point shooting skills at? i use 5-7 yards, and occasionally will use discolored clumps of dirt in the backstop 50 yds out. its satisfying to see the clump disappear in clouds of dust/dirt over and over again.
themic
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i personally think "reasonably well" point shooting is to hit an 8 1/2 x 11 " paper at 21'. can do this with a handgun pretty reliably, and it gets tighter the more shots you ring out.
i would say "good" point shooting is to hit multiple targets say 3" diameter at 21', one shot per target. can do this with a paintball gun i know, and without tracking my shots cause it's one shot per target. but it is a two-handed weapon, too.
i would say "good" point shooting is to hit multiple targets say 3" diameter at 21', one shot per target. can do this with a paintball gun i know, and without tracking my shots cause it's one shot per target. but it is a two-handed weapon, too.
XavierBreath
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It's a right brain spatial thing. I draw well, have a BFA and some master's work. I can point shoot but not very well at distances greater than 20 feet.
clubsoda22
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i can paint the walls with whatever i'm point shooting at, but can't draw a straight line with a ruler...on graph paper.
Just my opinion, but I feel that in order to consider point shooting good, one would have to reliably hit the "A" Zone of a silhouette or something of similar size on a regular basis on the first shot from a holster from a given distance. If you can do this at all, then you need to determine just how far away you can do this. Then you know that shots beyond this distance require more careful aim with sights.
I have fired without sights, or "shot from the hip" and was able to walk my shots onto a target, but if I had time to walk the shots in, I had time to use the sights. By the same token, in a self-defense senario, odds are you are not going to be able to walk your shots on target. You probably won't even be able to see them and again, if you don't hit the first couple times and are not out of the fight, you had time to use the sights.
I have fired without sights, or "shot from the hip" and was able to walk my shots onto a target, but if I had time to walk the shots in, I had time to use the sights. By the same token, in a self-defense senario, odds are you are not going to be able to walk your shots on target. You probably won't even be able to see them and again, if you don't hit the first couple times and are not out of the fight, you had time to use the sights.
Jim March
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Eric, it's been pretty well thrashed out through the thread...both in terms of shooting and sketching.
At a minimum, I described how truly bad I am at freehand sketching.
At a minimum, I described how truly bad I am at freehand sketching.
The ten shots are not necesarrily point shooting, but quick fire strong hand supported at 7 yards I believe...Not really a good indicator of good point shooting, but the only target pic I have...I would say my point shooting is pretty good...but I supose you will have to take my word for it.
Sketch done from this picture.
Sketch done from this picture.
Cosmoline
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I can't point worth a darn. I usually use my whole arm as a "sight" when I'm trying to point at something. If I do it from a bent arm, my finger is typically aiming at distant mountains or blue sky.
It's sights for me.
It's sights for me.
RandyC
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I sketch for a living. I can only speak for myself but, for me, sketching and point shooting have both been gifts whereas aimed fire is a practiced discipline.
I'm fairly amazed at my point shooting (within ten yards) so I don't practice it. What I do practice is rapid sight acquisition because when the chips are down my body will want to revert back to the point and shoot. I figure, only through discipline and practice, over and over, will I train my instincts to pick up that front sight.
Oh, and I don't really see the connection between sketching and point shooting. Of course, opinions may vary.
I'm fairly amazed at my point shooting (within ten yards) so I don't practice it. What I do practice is rapid sight acquisition because when the chips are down my body will want to revert back to the point and shoot. I figure, only through discipline and practice, over and over, will I train my instincts to pick up that front sight.
Oh, and I don't really see the connection between sketching and point shooting. Of course, opinions may vary.
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