All The Same Handguns

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Well, I finally did it. I am down to just three handguns and they are all exactly the same, Gen 3 Glock 21's. All have the 3.5lb disconnector's and Tru-Dot fixed night sights.

In my history I have had numerous types of handguns in various calibers, but being the pragmatic weirdo that I am, I felt the fewer calibers I had, the better off. It is kind of relieving to only have to buy one caliber of handgun ammo.

I guess it came down to my priorities, I shoot the Glock 21 better than any other handgun that I've owned or shot and IMO, having "different" guns is detrimental in defensive situations

I have family members that aren't "into" guns, so in a panic situation I felt our chances are better if, when grabbing a handgun for defense, they are all going to be the same, feel the same, look the same, operate the same, recoil the same, I felt this was a good combination for defensive handgun use.

The real bummer is that the last handgun I traded out to get to my 3rd G21 was a G41. If I had to do it all over again, I'd prefer to have three G41's over three G21's, but as I was already invested in G21's, it would've been a very costly proposition.
 
You have to help me here.

How do you justify 3 guns that are clones of eachother.

One a carry gun, one range gun, and one extra just in case.

Well done on caliber consolidation. That is a goal I hope to achieve one day.
 
not all the same but both my full size S&W 1911 &
Colt Commander have Flat MSH and both have the
Ed Brown Tacdical extended LH Thumb Safety

and the Cmdr works in the OWB pancake for the full size
and the IWB made for Cmdr length also the full size works
in it as well, trigger guard is covverd though it sits higher
than the Commander

& 5 Wilson Combat 8 rd ETM mags - 1 WC 10 rder

One for Carry - one for cleaning or whatever

R-
 
The bulk of the handguns I have, are the same make/caliber, with multiples of the each model that I use. It just makes sense to have duplicates and spares, and the commonality just makes things a lot easier.

I do still have at least one version each of most types of action, so I can stay in practice with, and on top of them.

Still don't have a pocket gun, tho
and there's lots of times that such a limitation will mean that you go unarmed.
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More and more these days, I find Im using my pocket sized guns, less and less. With the right holsters, you can easily carry near full sized handguns, with little effort. Why handicap yourself with a small gun, of a small caliber, with limited capacity, if you dont have to?
 
I've never been able to see why performance in any of the "combat" or bullseye matches matter to anyone?
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Well, I can only speak for myself, but shooting bullseye competition really has helped me in other kinds of shooting. Sight alignment and trigger squeeze, while implemented slowly in a bullseye shoot, becomes very natural in higher speed competitions like IDPA. I simply don't have to even think about them. And I didn't have to "learn" how to shoot strong hand unsupported in IDPA since that's the only way bullseye does it. I really think some of those seemingly unrelated forms of competition help to instill the basics that can make for a good shooter in other forms.

Lou
 
I know, I know, but like I said I'm one of those pragmatic weirdo's. I could be considered to have OCD about it.

If I don't use it, can't foresee using it or it just keeps things from being neat and orderly and/or complicating things when I reach for that specific tool, then it's out the door.

Decision making takes time, as I see it, when SHTF, I don't want to be deciding on which, I just want to grab THAT tool and put it to use immediately.

If I'm not near that "tool", but have access to another one where I am at, then that "tool" should be the same.

But that's just me.
 
Well my man, you are either to be congratulated as...

being amazingly practical and disciplined or chided for being almost unimaginably boring.:evil:

Time to commit one to a suppressor and another to a carbine chassis.
 
I get the boring perspective, but I have shotguns, .22's and other long guns to spruce it up from time to time. But I have to say there is not a large variety of those either, have to keep my calibers down :)
 
amprecon said:
I get the boring perspective, but I have shotguns, .22's and other long guns to spruce it up from time to time. But I have to say there is not a large variety of those either, have to keep my calibers down :)
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Yup - always a very valid consideration:
Ammo
Mags
Cleaning supplies
Holsters
Shooting proficiency
Lots of reasons to minimalize one's parameters.
 
I completely understand the caliber consolidation and wanting the manual of arms to be the same on your guns BUT, I can not understand you trading away your G41 for a third G21 when the G41 is practically identical to the G21 anyway. Anyone picking up either would not have to do anything different to shoot them.

What about a conceal carry gun?
 
As a method of optimizing your firearms as tools, it's a great plan. As a way of accumulating interesting firearms as part of a hobby it's off the mark.
Point is, and the OP acknowledges this, it's all about perspective. I'm somewhat OCD and thus did a half-way version of his plan. Most all of my plastic semi's are H&K's. All plastic semi's are 9x19. I do have two .22LR's, and two revolvers but, well, that's different. But for those that I feel would be used as 'tools' they are all virtually the same.
I must confess that I just broke down and purchased a 1911. Only because every handgun owner should have a 1911. Or so I'm told.
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I think the OP has a great plan. Sadly I can't seem to stick with it. Every time I wind up with two of the same gun (eg 2 x HK P30S, 2 x HK USPf9, 3 x Browning Hi-Power) I always succumb to the temptation to sell or trade one of them on something else I "need". It's a great idea to have multiple copies of your favorite CCW gun. If something breaks you still have another exact duplicate to CCW while you get one fixed. Also you could have a couple of them "staged" in various spots around the house for security knowing that you're gonna be very familiar with the gun.

I'm strongly tempted to get a second HK VP9 for CCW purposes.
 
I have 3 Glock 26s. One is my carry which I shoot once a month. Another is my range gun, which cuts down on cleaning a lot since I pretty much just don't clean it. The third is set up with a laser for dry fire practice.
 
Sounds like a practical idea to me. I mean, I can definitely see the benefit to it. I'd like to have spares for a couple different guns, but I don't think I could ever go to just those guns. Not so much because "variety is the spice of life," but because it would mean I'd have roles that aren't filled at all.
 
Makes sense from a logistics/familiarity standpoint but does sound awfully boring and somewhat limiting in terms of versatility. I love diversity, especially in my handguns, and steadfastly believe that variety is the spice of life.
 
From a purely defensive point of view, I agree that having identical (or at least similar) guns is best, at least for carry. I have often cautioned against the "if it's Tuesday, I must have a SIG" concept; in spite of repeated assurances by the "gun of the day" folks that it would never happen to THEM, I can easily imagine dying while frantically pulling the trigger of a locked 1911 thinking I had a Glock that day.

Jim
 
Using your scenario, I would have gone with the 21, 41 and 30S. All essentially the same gun, share mags, same caliber, same manual of arms. But you'd have a carry option and a range option.
 
I think it is a good idea if that is the gun you like. You pick up the gun, any one of them, and there is no confusion about what you have and how it will shoot.

I've always admired forum member Shipwreck's commitment to the Beretta 92. Commonality of parts, magazines, familiarity of controls, etc.

The thing that I always wonder about are the guys with a bunch of different Glocks or multi-caliber versions of a gun. For instance the guy with the G22 and the G17. In the dark, how do you know what mag you have? How about a guy with a SIG P226 with the .40 S&W barrel, .357 SIG barrel, and 9MM barrel, in the dark, in an emergency, what procedure do you go through to make sure there is no confusion as to what barrel is in the gun and what mags are loaded up and available?
 
Maybe good in various ways, and as you state GREAT for folks who just want to learn one gun.

I take a different road. As many different guns that I can find to my liking and as wide as ammo choices as practical. I won't get into all the details as why this works for me, but I'm a decent shot, I have muscle memory on 5+ guns, and I have yet to run low on any ammo variety. And I was able to find ammo for a least 2 calibers at any given time during the banic.
 
Must be a language issue.

To me, choosing a single gun/caliber/configuration is a textbook example of Idealism, the idea that there can be/is an Ideal or best and any variation from that Ideal are at best baroque aesthetics (making little fiddly changes for appearance sake) and at worst chaotic disorder, but always inferior.

Pragmatic would be exemplified by the idea that yeah, ideally you could standardize on one, but in the real world different styles of dress or activities can mandate different guns (I can carry my 17+1 2011 IWB all day normally, but if I am faced with a 7+ hour drive I am pragmatic enough to know that something less jabby is in order).

It is pragmatism - the realization that the Ideal is subordinate to the Practical - that leads me to have carry guns that range from 5oz to 40oz, and from .22mag to .454 casull. Most variations in gun designs exist and survive for pragmatic reasons.
 
The thing that I always wonder about are the guys with a bunch of different Glocks or multi-caliber versions of a gun. For instance the guy with the G22 and the G17. In the dark, how do you know what mag you have? How about a guy with a SIG P226 with the .40 S&W barrel, .357 SIG barrel, and 9MM barrel, in the dark, in an emergency, what procedure do you go through to make sure there is no confusion as to what barrel is in the gun and what mags are loaded up and available?
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I would assume, if youre going to do it, you have the common sense to keep things segregated.

To me, commonality, includes caliber, and actually stresses it. With things like Glocks, loaded guns get the factory mag for the model, and all other mags, are the largest in the "family". Less chance of a fight stopping mix up, and why would you not want the extra capacity?

I know the mix and match thing looks inviting at first blush, but it really is just a money waster in the long run, and could be money spent on another complete gun, and/or more ammo/mags/accessories.
 
It seems like a good plan, for you.

For me it would be like golfing with just three of the same club (probably would not change my score though).
 
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