All those .22 ftf's ....

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OK now - fess up - honesty time!! What do you do with those .22 rounds that just will NOT go off ... even after three hits? There are numerous ways to supposedly ''safely dispose'' but, come on ... really - what have you come up with? ;)

Currently, Wed's evenings are indoor pin shoots with .22's .... maybe like last time, 16 of us ... teams of two, 20 rounds (2 mags) each guy. So - in an evening, we may shoot shall we say eight details of pairs ... making approx 2,500 rounds fired. Not unusual to end the sessions with a half dozen or so ftf's (and heavier pins LOL). I chuck 'em in my range bag usually when I pick 'em up.

After that? Once a ''collection'' builds up ............ well, I'll tell when you tell!! :p :D
 
When I would shoot at my parents all misfires go in the 1/2 acre pond. Other wise they go into a orange box at the range. I understand that some guy picks out the centerfire loads and reloads them.
 
carebear :D

Not that I would know anything about that...was gonna have to dispose of the BP anyway...

"Jimmy Hoffa" method is probably safest. ;)

Well...mixing old carbide bits and such to make concrete more resistant to "bust up" to get a gun safe free...dud ammo seems appropriate. :evil:
 
can't help it...

When I would shoot at my parents all misfires go...
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Pretty bad argument eh?
sorry...just had to..

To stay on topic, I've heard that some people take pliers and unscrew/pull out the bullet, then discard in pieces. I've never done this myself though... through literally thousands of rounds of .22 over the years, never seen a dud.
 
"When I would shoot at my parents all misfires go in the 1/2 acre pond. Other wise they go into a orange box at the range. I understand that some guy picks out the centerfire loads and reloads them."

I hope you dont fish there. :uhoh:

When I was younger I used to take all the duds (and some more :) ), pull them apart with pliers, and make some kind of firework from the powder. I would take the lead and throw it in an old jelly jar to eventually be molten into something.

Now I just throw them in the large trash can at the range.
 
At our range, they want us to pick them up and pull them apart and toss them in the brass bucket or trash....normally they just get tossed in the trash.
 
I keep a small container filled with an industrial solvent/lubricant similar to WD40. Any duds get tossed in there. It disables the primers on centerfire rounds, and I've found that after a couple of weeks, it saturates the powder too. The latter effect is also visible on rimfires. This disables them nicely, and I can then toss them in the trash.
 
I bring them home. Grab my needle nose pliers and bend the bullet until it pops off. I toss the powder into my "sweepings" can.

The bullets get tossed into a can for alloying with wheelweights. the .22 lube makes a great flux.

My "sweepings" can is an old one pound Bullseye power can that has been marked SWEEPINGS.
In it is all of the spilled powder, powder from pulled ammo and those annoying tiny amounts that are occasionally left over from a little used powder type.

This "mix" of powders is later used in my "volcano" and other assorted Rock & Roll pyrotechnic devices.
Or just saved for the 4th. :evil:
 
Our club does what Preacherman said. We keep a bucket with some Marvel's Mystery Oil in it and drop duds in it. Components can be salvaged from some CF stuff, if anyone feels like it (it's messy) but RF stuff generally gets hauled off.
 
I don't know that I've ever had one that wouldn't fire through something. If it won't go with the P22, it will usually go through the 77/22 or single six. But then, I haven't been shooting for that long.

-James
 
Actually having a dud 22lr is pretty darn rare.
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You are right Peter - it is, amazingly, pretty rare.

In this case cited tho with pin shooting, and approx 2.5k rounds being used (of varying types and quality - some are from ''bulk bricks'') - not quite so surprising IMO. Of course, if during a string of rapid, a ftf is ejected - it stays ejected!! Had a Fed bulk recently that with three strong pin strikes just would not go!

So 5 or 6 in 2.5k .... 0.2% failure. Oh and, one or two guns are either bullseye or less than clean ... so light strikes can affect this too. I know of one bullseye semi that is very fussy on what it'll chamber and if then round just not quite seated, the anvil requirement from breechface is degraded.
 
:what:

Lets just hope you dont throw a lit cigarette into the yards. :)

Nitrates are pretty common in fertilizers, but I would be hesitant to put it in there.

Besides, I prefer fireworks over gardening. :neener:
 
The most duds I ever had were from a box of 50 Rem subsonic, I had 8, this was last year. Rem gave me a case number I sent them in, but haven't heard anything from them since. Normally I'd get 4-5 duds per 10 thousand of Eley and maybe 1 per 20 thousand of Federal, Win or Rem. I used to shoot about 60k rounds per year when i was competing.

The targets were on the other side of the pond so thats why the duds went in there.

Now the dirty ammo stuff that fell on floor or what ever I put in a tennis can then throw it in to the burn barrel. There were some dents and dings on the can but thats all. That was my first insight that Hollywood wasn't accurate about firearms.
 
I put in a tennis can then throw it in to the burn barrel.
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Hahahah ... at last I am in good company at last! LOL. I do this I have to admit - not that many at a time of course. Some may say it's not a good idea ... and I guess one should add the usual disclaimer - ''do not do this at home''.

However - my burn barrel is a rolled corrugated steel tube piece ... three feet across and about same height ... at very bottom of yard near corn field. All that happens is, when a good fire has died down - is plop em in hot ashes and retire. Pop, pop, pop, ... in that order!!! No drama at all.! :p
 
I used to dig a small hole in the woods and dump them, but now I just pull the bullet off the shell, dump the powder and throw the empty shell in the brass recycling box. :cool:
 
never had one that failed to fire on the 3'rd try at worst.
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Then I must be gettin' your duds ! :D

I used to pop quite a few .22s as far back as 30 years ago when I competed. I remember the failure rate then as being around 1 per 1000. These days I see around 10 per 1000. don't make 'em like they used to....

(& I'm talking about good hits.. Seems most likely reason for a misfire is a bubble in the primer paste ending up under the firing pin. Often will go if rotated 120 degrees & tried again. If it won't go after the 3rd hit it probably isn't gonna....)

Disposal ? Jar of oil for 6 months, then chuck 'em.
 
I quit buying Remington thunderbolts a long time ago. Since then, I have not had nearly as many FTFs. With Federal Lightnings, I have never had one at all (in closing in on 3000 rounds), except a 10/22 mag I dropped on the mountain last year and didn't find for a week. All 30 were FTF after that ordeal, but I think the mag got rained on. A friend of mine told me that he left a box on his covered porch, and after a day or two in the humidity, they had several FTF.
 
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