Hogs with a .22

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Subject: How to catch wild pigs
There was a Chemistry professor in a large college that had some Exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab the Prof noticed one young man (exchange student) who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist government.
In the midst of his story he looked at the professor and asked a Strange question. He asked, " Do you know how to catch wild pigs?"
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line. The young man said this was no joke."You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.
Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.
The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. While we continually lose our freedoms- just a little at a time.
One should always remember "There is no such thing as a free lunch!" Also, "You can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.
If you see that all of this wonderful government "help" is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends.
If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life then you will probably delete this email, but God help you when the gate slams shut!
 
Shoot, just go ahead and put up all four sides of the pen at once. The pigs will still go in for the free corn. They don't even fathom the idea of losing their freedom. They just want the free corn. That's why they're called pigs.

That's when you can take the .22 to them.
 
Mike,

A "little" off subject but what the hey good point! Very Orwellian, Animal Farm and stuff like that.

And in a deeper metaphorical sense the poster below points out how easy it is to kill freedom once the gate is closed.:D

Man I love this site!!;)
 
At 40 grains a bullet that's 2400 grains or about 5 1/2 Oz. of lead. Musta been one tough critter or some real bad shootin.
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I don't necessarily see the same problem you do here. Merely taking the total quantity of lead applied doesn't have anything to do with the "toughness" of the critter, or the marksmanship.

Put another way: if he'd been using a pellet gun, how much lead do you think he would have thrown? I'm guessing pounds, and the hog would still have him treed.

The problem here isn't the amount of lead used, it's the inadequate caliber. A .22 or .25 is fine--on a domestic pig, with the muzzle in contact with the back of the head. On a wild critter, I'd say the hunter owes it to his prey to use a more substantial caliber.
 
H&H, just to defend my own statement, notice I said a clean kill, not a one-shot kill. I am not much of a hunter, but I know enough to know that I am not the Angel of Death and thus will make mistakes. Two or three shots to get a kill cleanly is one thing. 60 shots is a whole different animal, so to speak.
 
Timbo,

I agree with you my only point being once you start the fray you are honor bound to finish it. They did what they had to do.

OF COURSE I am not advocating using a .22 for wild boar. That was bad judgment.

I am just trying to put myself in their situation. If I'd have shot a hog with a .22 for whatever reason. I'd also give it all it took to finish the job.

SkiNM,

I agree people simply don't understand the massive damage these critters do every year. They are a destructive pest.

I know a game manager on a ranch who is hired out to shoot them off of cotton and peanut fields during the sprouting season. He shoots multiple hogs at night with an Ar in 223 with varmint style bullets. The thinking is that they'll run off and die somewhere else so they don't have to walk out in the field and damage more sprouts by having to collect them.

People simply don't realize what the local attitude towards these destructive pests are. They are shot on sight in agricultural country with whatever is available.
 
To echo what H&H said, the landowner of every place I have hunted here in Texas has stated if you see a hog or a coyote, shoot it. Period.

I have seen hogs make a 100 acre pasture look like it had been plowed up with a tractor...in one night.

As far as shooting one in the ear with a .22 goes, that usually only works if they are in a trap or bayed with dogs.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Mc,

Although I have enjoyed reading this thread, and agree with H&H 100%, I have a feeling you regret ever posting this one.:D
My questions are how many of the 60 shots hit and where were the hits? It does not take 60 shots of .22 to kill ANY hog, unless you ain't hitting it in the kill zone. Any hog, no matter the size, can be killed with one .22 to the brain. That doesn't mean I believe I could consistently hit one in the brain that is coming after me! Once committed, the guys did what they had to do, to finish the job. They just can't shoot worth a darn IMHO.:neener:
 
Next time be like Rambo and just kill it with a knife...... Needless to say they were a little under gunned. About like me crawling through a thicket with a small .22 pistol worried that I might meet something bigger than a grey squirrel. I usually try to carry a .357 when working on the farm or while in the woods.
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Well now you have a fine idea there. One in fact that quite a few folks have accomplished over the years. Now not necessarily by jumping out of a tree with a big knife but by using some smarts and dogs to bay the animals. I have seen many taken, but I have only taken 1 that way myself about a 200 lb sow). I also went a few times with some guys who caught them by hand (for farmers who were having property and crops damaged) and then either butchered them or sold them to some huntin lodges. That was a rush BTW. Saw a buddy catch a boar that was about as big as my largest kill (350-375 lb range), you bay them in tree tops or heavy brush, then get ahold of their tale and get the backend off the ground. It puts them in neutral so to speak, they then will tie them up with parachute cord and carry/drag them out. I caught a couple of small pigs this way (lt 100 lbs) and they are not so bad, them bigger critters are tougher and while I liked watching, I didn't think much about the idea of doing that myself. Actually took my 1st hog with a .22 pistol using the same methods.
 
I just purchased a Ruger 77/22 mag. Sweet gun. If I see a hog on my property and that's all I've got with me, I'm aiming straight for the head. Usually it's a clean kill or a clean miss. No harm no foul. If I hit the animal and it charges I suppose I'd have to shoot till it's dead.

.22 lr is a different story though....if you're not fairly certain you can put lead in its ear hole, you should probably let it walk.
 
"As far as shooting one in the ear with a .22 goes, that usually only works if they are in a trap or bayed with dogs."

Tell that to the ones that have been killed with my .22.
 
I too, have a hard time swallowing 60 shots for one hog (geez, SIXTY shots:what:, c'mon now..) The darn thing wasn't even running away!! Either very, very poor aiming or something worse.

Although I never killed a hog myself, I have witnessed wild hogs taken by people in three opportunities.

Once by tresspassers with dogs which blazed out of the woodwork in hot pursuit of a hog which ended right in front of me and my dad (we were almost run over, totally awe struck by the sudden appearing furball of three dogs, a hog and two morons trying to get a clean shot in between); the dogs cornerd the pig against a nearby fence and they used a .22 rifle to put it down, fired three shots at rather close range. They were not allowed to take the hog with them.

The second was killed by a man (my uncle) on horseback with a .380 Walther PPK, with 5 shots although I can't say how many were actually hits. Now that was totally improvised, fast action. Very unexpected.

The third was a sick/wounded, limping hog that was spotted and chased down on foot by an employee and taken with a wooden club to the head, then bled out with a knife. Apparently the guy liked pork alot :eek:

You know, most hog hunting usually seems to be an improvised, spur of the moment thing.
 
The second was killed by a man (my uncle) on horseback with a .380 Walther PPK, with 5 shots although I can't say how many were actually hits. Now that was totally improvised, fast action. Very unexpected.
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Now that's pretty bad to the bone right there. :D

These guys, the shots were improvised. They were squirrel hunting after all. When I hog hunt, it ain't improvised and I'm armed with a high caliber rifle normally, well, and SKS lately. "High caliber" is a relative term. LOL

Most of the hogs I've killed have been with a .308, but took one with a 7 mag. I was deer hunting when I shot some of 'em, but a few were killed on hog hunts. It's about the only day hunting that's affordable anymore.
 
So, I spent the weekend with my best friends dad who just got back from hog hunting in Texas, and he reports thats anything up to and including hand grenades are perfectly acceptable for hunting. I still feel that the whole 60 shot thing is excessive, but after listening to his stories I find myself in the uncomfortable position of admitting that I may have spoken without enough knowledge of the topic at hand. He also reports that shooting as many hogs as you can is not only OK, but encouraged on account of the plague-like abundance of hogs.

It doesn't happen often, but it appears that I got my panties in a bunch without knowing enough about my topic, and I am admitting that I was perhaps a bit stringent in my posts.

Dammit.
 
Back about 40 years ago, inventories at Fort Hood weren't all that tightly controlled. Quite a few ranchers had sons who were stationed there. Army training includes some knowledge of booby-traps...

Ranchers around the general vicinity of Leakey, Texas, were plagued by wild hogs. They'd lose lambs and kids (baby goats, for you folks in Rio Linda) to the depredation of the hogs as well as the usual coyotes and bobcats.

The hogs also rooted under the net-wire pasture fences, and you might be amazed at how quickly goats find any escape route.

Obvious solution: Some dynamite and a tripwire detonator, placed where there was a rooted-out hole under a fence.

Instant hogburger!
 
I hadn't thought of huntin hogs with handgranades or with dynamite but years ago while deer hunting from a stand at the edge of a field, I had a rather large herd of hogs move in right by my stand, there was about 30 or 40 head. A couple of decent boars (200 - 250 lbs) 6 or 7 sows, and about 20 or so shoats. Most were withing 15 or 20 yards moved accros the edge of the field in a nice tight group. A hand granade would have been real handy right then!:evil:
 
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