thomas15
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The thoughts of a mad man...
I shoot both (but I'm a piker) and find that those who shoot USPSA do better relative to their skills going to IDPA compared to IDPA going to USPSA. Especially the IDPA classifiers because there is not a whole lot that has to be taken from cover, but in a regular IDPA match it is easy for me at least to forget to use cover and accumulate procedurals.
My first revolver was a 6 shot 686 that I purchased specifically to shoot the older revolver class in IDPA. Now they allow moons if you shoot a major pf which can be done with a .357 however the 625s have a major advantage in reloads with the shorter 45 acp cartridge. I have decided to do very little IDPA this year and use my 686 with 38 brass that I have cut down to roughly 38 short colt length, added Hogue big butts and extended cylinder latches to shoot ICORE classic and L-6.
I fought that battle with myself almost 3 years ago. I would not want to try to influence anyone on this decision. My home club is home to one of the top revolver shooters and I speak with him from time to time. I asked him what to get and he told me 929. This is good because I already shoot production auto 9mm. Then I decided, because I shoot a lot of static steel that I wanted a dot sight so I put one on the 929. Now I have a problem because this puts me in USPSA open. So after much hand wringing I got another 929. one iron sight the other optic. I had action work done on both. The gun I use for optics requires .040 thick moons the other is fine with .035. Odd.
I guess what I'm trying to say is still with all I have invested I at times second guess myself and think perhaps a 627 would have been better. At my level probably wouldn't matter but I like to have good stuff. A 929 though is a fantastic revolver and at this point I really enjoy shooting them.
A traditional revolver shooter might scoff at using a 9mm taper crimp cartridge in a revo but it greatly simplifies my ammo supply situation. I use only Federal, Blazer and Winchester brass and Revolver Supply Company .040 "extreme" moons. After much fooling around I have settled on Bayou coated bullets. Although the gun is 9mm I get better results with Bayou 38 bullets. They measure .358, I use their 105g TC for steel challenge and 135g RN for USPSA and ICORE to make pf. I use an EGW 9mm undersize resizing die to gain a little more case mouth tension I have had bullets come apart in the cylinder which is not good but since using the u die it hasn't happened.
If you browse the Brian Enos forum in the revo section there is a lot of chatter on the 627/929 decision. When the 929 was first introduced some were having problems extracting the empties but I have over 15k through my first 929 and haven't had a single problem. Keep in mind, as mentioned, I'm not a shooter of note.
I shoot both (but I'm a piker) and find that those who shoot USPSA do better relative to their skills going to IDPA compared to IDPA going to USPSA. Especially the IDPA classifiers because there is not a whole lot that has to be taken from cover, but in a regular IDPA match it is easy for me at least to forget to use cover and accumulate procedurals.
That whole USPSA revolver thing dinged me I had finally upgraded my old 610 to a 625 and did not make it two full seasons with it before the rule change sent me digging for a 627 and now revolver is mostly, nearly a major, 929s. Glad I can still shoot my old model 10 in IDPA...
Personally the changes in the last revision of IDPA made it much better IMHO. I enjoy IDPA more than I ever have. Despite poking some fun at it I think this new smaller "alternate classifier" is another step in the right direction for the sport.
My first revolver was a 6 shot 686 that I purchased specifically to shoot the older revolver class in IDPA. Now they allow moons if you shoot a major pf which can be done with a .357 however the 625s have a major advantage in reloads with the shorter 45 acp cartridge. I have decided to do very little IDPA this year and use my 686 with 38 brass that I have cut down to roughly 38 short colt length, added Hogue big butts and extended cylinder latches to shoot ICORE classic and L-6.
I fought that battle with myself almost 3 years ago. I would not want to try to influence anyone on this decision. My home club is home to one of the top revolver shooters and I speak with him from time to time. I asked him what to get and he told me 929. This is good because I already shoot production auto 9mm. Then I decided, because I shoot a lot of static steel that I wanted a dot sight so I put one on the 929. Now I have a problem because this puts me in USPSA open. So after much hand wringing I got another 929. one iron sight the other optic. I had action work done on both. The gun I use for optics requires .040 thick moons the other is fine with .035. Odd.
I guess what I'm trying to say is still with all I have invested I at times second guess myself and think perhaps a 627 would have been better. At my level probably wouldn't matter but I like to have good stuff. A 929 though is a fantastic revolver and at this point I really enjoy shooting them.
A traditional revolver shooter might scoff at using a 9mm taper crimp cartridge in a revo but it greatly simplifies my ammo supply situation. I use only Federal, Blazer and Winchester brass and Revolver Supply Company .040 "extreme" moons. After much fooling around I have settled on Bayou coated bullets. Although the gun is 9mm I get better results with Bayou 38 bullets. They measure .358, I use their 105g TC for steel challenge and 135g RN for USPSA and ICORE to make pf. I use an EGW 9mm undersize resizing die to gain a little more case mouth tension I have had bullets come apart in the cylinder which is not good but since using the u die it hasn't happened.
If you browse the Brian Enos forum in the revo section there is a lot of chatter on the 627/929 decision. When the 929 was first introduced some were having problems extracting the empties but I have over 15k through my first 929 and haven't had a single problem. Keep in mind, as mentioned, I'm not a shooter of note.
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