America-wide CCW

[JT1JTI]

Residency in which single state would give you potential for the widest ability to CCW throughout the United States?

In other words, which state not only allows CCW easily, but enjoys the most reciprocity (or equivalent) agreements among the remaining 49?

 

[lacoochee]

Try www.handgunlaw.us, the answer to your question changes, I think Utah is a good one.

 

[El Tejon]

Utah or Florida (or both). You need not be a resident as I have both.

 

[Bruce333]

for a resident permit (which is what you asked about) TN, MI 34 States, MO 33 States, NC, UT, OK, 32 States.

according to the map on http://handgunlaw.us/ , some States are still adding to their list so this is subject to change.

 

[TAB]

or just be a LEO... personally I'd rather see them have to go thru the CCW process rather then just getting one for being LEO. Same with weapons... if John Q public can't buy it... LEOs should not beable.

 

[Im283]

I thought a TN HCP gives you 37 states.

 

[Autolycus]

Ron Paul endorsed a national reciprocity bill when he was in Congress. Essentially this would allow us to carry in any state as long as you have a CCW from your home state. It would be essentially treating your CCW permit like your drivers license.

 

[General Geoff]

^^even if such legislation was passed, who thinks states like New Jersey, California, Maryland, etc. would actually honour out of state permits?


My guess is, not without a long, bloody court battle



On top of that, you then get into the issue of state-level bans on certain pistols. A Glock 17, while legal here in PA, is not legal in NJ at ALL with a standard capacity magazine. Would a nationwide CCW bill address this and create an exemption clause for the sidearms of out-of-state residents? If not, you'd have to buy a nerfed sidearm for maximum nationwide state-level ban compliance.

 

[herohog]

The best deal going right now is to get the New Hampshire non-resident permit if your state has reciprocity with them. It's cheap, ya get it fast and it covers a lot of states!

 

[boalex207]

The best deal going right now is to get the New Hampshire non-resident permit if your state has reciprocity with them. It's cheap, ya get it fast and it covers a lot of states!

+ 1
very hassle free

Get a permit or license from ANY state and NH will issue you a non-resident credential

 

[GRIZ22]

personally I'd rather see them have to go thru the CCW process rather then just getting one for being LEO. Same with weapons

The Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act (LEOSA aka HR218) has been getting a bad rapo from a lot of people. The only way for national reciprocity is if Congress passes a law which will be hooked to getting some kind of Federal money. This is only possible if the right people are in Congress. Getting Ron Paul elected POTUS will not do it. There are a lot og things I like about Paul but I don't think he has a chance (although I remember "who's Jimmy Carter". Using the LEOSA as a precedent to show "we haven't had any problems" is a good thing.

 

[cbsbyte]

A nation wide CCW law would never work since several states would not honor it. For example right now Massachusetts does not recognize any out of state permits. Nor does it recognize the "federal peaceful journy" law. The only way for non residents to carry in state is to obtain a Non resident LTC from the state police. Even bringing a non Mass licensed handgun into the state is illegal.

 

[25ACP]

The best deal going right now is to get the New Hampshire non-resident permit if your state has reciprocity with them. It's cheap, ya get it fast and it covers a lot of states!

Yup, we got it it goin' on up here. $10 and the same background check as a handgun purchase gets you a concealed carry permit. And open carry is legal here without a permit.

 

[brighamr]

^^even if such legislation was passed, who thinks states like New Jersey, California, Maryland, etc. would actually honour out of state permits?

My guess is, not without a long, bloody court battle

On top of that, you then get into the issue of state-level bans on certain pistols. A Glock 17, while legal here in PA, is not legal in NJ at ALL with a standard capacity magazine. Would a nationwide CCW bill address this and create an exemption clause for the sidearms of out-of-state residents? If not, you'd have to buy a nerfed sidearm for maximum nationwide state-level ban compliance.

A nation wide CCW law would never work since several states would not honor it. For example right now Massachusetts does not recognize any out of state permits. Nor does it recognize the "federal peaceful journy" law. The only way for non residents to carry in state is to obtain a Non resident LTC from the state police. Even bringing a non Mass licensed handgun into the state is illegal.

Politics aside, I love the "glass is half emtpy" thinking in this forum. Rather than hope a national CCW law gets passed and possibly use it to get rid of unconstitutional handgun bans, people just talk about how a national CCW law would never work, and all the problems it would cause...

If for some weird reason a national CCW law was passed, that superceded communist state laws, I think that would be one of the biggest steps for the 2A group in a long time. (Will it happen? probably not, but I'd much rather hope for the best than accept the worst)

 

[General Geoff]

I agree it would be great if such a thing was passed, but god help the poor soul who happens to be the first person incarcerated by law enforcement of an anti state, due to their refusal to abide by federal law.

 

[Rambling_one]

Just Because I Could...I Wouldn't

Being from Maryland, the idea of a national carry permit is down right intoxicating. However, even if available, I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reason to visit New Jersey. In 1959 the Navy flew me out of McGuire AFB for duty over seas. That was quite enough, thank you.

 

[scout26]

The Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act (LEOSA aka HR218) has been getting a bad rapo from a lot of people.

No, what gets a bad rap is all the LEO organizations (LEAA, etc) who came to us gunowners, hat-in-hand, and said "If you help us get this passed, we'll work with you on getting state and national reciprocity CCW for you peons later."

Well, we called and emailed and wrote letters to our reps saying "vote for HR218", and now those same LEO organizations develop collective amnesia when asked to help support CCW for "regular" people.

 

[FLA2760]

Here is a good resource for CCW information. It has a reciprocity guide link for each State including nonresident permits.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

I don't think creating a national CCW law is the right way to go. We've already got one. The Second Amendment. Any state that is part of the union must follow the US Constitution. It affirms the right to keep and bear arms. New and more complicated laws are not the answer. We should just clarify the 2A as any US Citizen in any US state to be allowed to bear arms..

 

[DDude]

I don't think creating a national CCW law is the right way to go. We've already got one. The Second Amendment. Any state that is part of the union must follow the US Constitution. It affirms the right to keep and bear arms. New and more complicated laws are not the answer. We should just clarify the 2A as any US Citizen in any US state to be allowed to bear arms...

This is the winning answer. As far as I'm concerned, the states have the authority to do whatever they choose (as is their right) but do not have the authority to cross the line by infringing on our Constitutionally guaranteed rights as given to us by our Creator and listed in the Bill of Rights. Do any of the states require we register somewhere when we speak, what religion we practice, what we keep in our homes, etc?

How we carry, where we carry, when we carry, what we carry... the 2A does not make a distinction... only that we have the right to carry. I dream of the day when the Constitution is followed.

 

[btucker1947]

allows CCW easily, but enjoys the most reciprocity

In answer to which state not only allows CCW easily, but enjoys the most reciprocity (or equivalent) agreements among the remaining 49?

I'm saying Texas but there are a lot of changes going on across the Country and I'm proud to say that Americans are taking a stand and we are getting back our rights in a lot of cases. We are demanding them and voting in poilticians that will do what we ask or else we vote them out.

 

[gunsmith]

This is probably the millionenth time

we hashed out this topic.

That being said, I was really disappointed with LE in my family that got me to support HR218 and now tell me nationwide reciprocity is a pipe dream.

 

[Autolycus]

National reciprocity would be the best thing that could happen to those of us trapped in states that do not have CCW or have very restrictive CCW issuances. I dont think it would be so bad as we are going to be forced to accept the RealID soon.

And many people have stated they will not visit states such as CA or IL, or cities like NYC or Chicago because of the gun laws and crime rates. Well now you would have the ability to carry there.

Imagine not having to worry about crossing those states as your gun will be concealed and you wont have to break it down into a non-functioning state. So many of the problems we face when traveling would dissapear. It would be nice to say carry anway and not have to worry about being caught carrying as the law would allow it.

It would be nice if politicians recognized the 2nd Amendment for what it is, but we all know that this will not happen. So our best bet is to just pass something like this. Make it so that people who are not able to leave states such as IL or NY would be able to carry on a Florida permit. In the case of national reciprocity it seems gunowners are their own worst enemies.

 

[Morgan]

GunSmith Sez:

I was really disappointed with LE in my family that got me to support HR218 and now tell me nationwide reciprocity is a pipe dream.

Hey, you supported us - great! Now we just have to work to get the political climate to a point where we can get someone to introduce an all-State CCW. I'm pushing for it, and when it happens, honest LE will support you.

Sadly, right now, it is a pipe dream.

 

[Autolycus]

Originally posted by Scout26: No, what gets a bad rap is all the LEO organizations (LEAA, etc) who came to us gunowners, hat-in-hand, and said "If you help us get this passed, we'll work with you on getting state and national reciprocity CCW for you peons later."

Well, we called and emailed and wrote letters to our reps saying "vote for HR218", and now those same LEO organizations develop collective amnesia when asked to help support CCW for "regular" people.

Actually, LEAA seems to be the only LE organization that is for gunowners. I have to give credit where credit is due.

However I agree with you that in general law enforcement agencies and officers seem to have turned their back on us gunowners. That is why I support disarming them and reversing LEOSA as it is unconstitutional. I mean they all agreed to support the constitution so they should have no problem getting rid of unconstitutional law.