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Lot of countries have been doing it longer that we have. Cars, sure I'll buy American; I drive a chevy. But, if the best in any given niche isn't American, then so be it.
 
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I just like my things made in AMERICA, but I guess I'm old fashioned, at any rate I'm old. Just seems like the right thing to do since we've lost so much of our sporting equipment to foreign countries, and the trend continues. Try and buy a fishing reel made in U.S.A. and a lot of other things we like, very hard to find anymore. Al
 
I do love my American made blued steel and walnut rifles, but that said my plastic/stainless Tikka will hang with the best of them any day of the week.
 
I had a preference for US-made, until I bought a brand-new imitation M-1 Carbine by Auto-Ordnance. The action, which was never dropped or dragged in dirt etc, jammed solid:( after about 200 rounds when trying to find out why the bolt suddenly had lots of friction, then underwent a free factory repair.

This never happened to my used ('90) Ruger Mini 14, bought in '08, the used Mini 30 (four years old), nor the Chinese Norinco SKS.
That AO Carbine was my first gun purchase, back in '07 (age 52).
 
This never happened to my used ('90) Ruger Mini 14, bought in '08, the used Mini 30 (four years old),
You do know where the Rugers were made?
 
Lacey Place, Southport, CT.
I was very satisfied with them.
My point was that it was a shame that AO could not also build such a reliable product. It could have been very bad luck.
 
With due respect to the OP, while I do support American industry I don't feel that it makes me more of a patriot to buy American-made guns. My Kimber 1911 and my AR15 were the only two I made sure to buy American, simply because both are icons of American gun culture. That being said, I love my Commie rifles and Euro handguns just as much.
I believe that going out of your way to try to buy American products (where they are available and meet your needs) to support your fellow countrymen actually does make you more of a patriot.

I don't hold it against anybody who doesn't (even the most committed "buy American" consumer will find it near impossible to not buy certain things imported), but I have greater respect for the person who will pay 5% more for something made in his own country than the person who doesn't care where something is made as long as it is the cheapest product available.
 
I believe that going out of your way to try to buy American products (where they are available and meet your needs) to support your fellow countrymen actually does make you more of a patriot.

I don't hold it against anybody who doesn't (even the most committed "buy American" consumer will find it near impossible to not buy certain things imported), but I have greater respect for the person who will pay 5% more for something made in his own country than the person who doesn't care where something is made as long as it is the cheapest product available.
Double edged sword, though. If your American consumer hasn't got the extra 5% to spend because of the economy, then your point is moot.

There's another way to get the point across: talk to your congressmen/women. Jobs aren't being sent overseas because of my firearms choices. I'm sure Ruger has let a few nondesirables slip thought the hiring process. Also, if we weren't flooded with import weapons, no one would need to sell those either. Some businesses thrive on import weapons (alot of your Internet dealers for instance) and without them THEY'D have no purpose in hiring CS people, online sales people, or smiths. There's your jobless Americans, put out because the market got unbalanced.
 
There are American owned car companies and foreign cars built in America, but there are no 100% made american cars or trucks. They do have parts that are made out side of this country. Does that mean you'll start riding an american born horse?
 
There are American owned car companies and foreign cars built in America, but there are no 100% made american cars or trucks. They do have parts that are made out side of this country. Does that mean you'll start riding an american born horse?
Nothing is black and white or set in stone. You can say nothing is 100% so I'm not going to bother trying to support my country if you'd like. My thought process is simple. I'm going to buy some foreign stuff - no way around it. However, I will look at the tags of items I buy. I will try to buy something made (even if only assembled) in this country. I will put a preference on buying something from an American company.

Pick what's important to you. To me, supporting our economy is important.
 
I'm a red blooded American Patriot just as much as anybody, but, new production RemChesters don't compare to a new production CZ for the same price or even less. I like my commie rifles for their ruggedness.

Thats the beauty of being American and being able to participate in a free market. I vote with my wallet and buy the best product for the best price.

I wish I could buy a Chevy and have it be as reliable and well engineered as my Toyota. Its a shame that American made stuff isn't the best like it used to be. Until it is, if it ever is, I'm still going to buy the best for the money. Hopefully it motivates a few companies to get back in the game and make better products.
 
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As always, I can depend on TheHighRoad to deliver not just quality help, but diverse opinions on whatever subject is being discussed. The last couple posts started getting a little catty about what 100% American Made really means, and while this wasn’t a Chevy vs. BMW thread, I’m glad we were able to keep on the topic of American Made RIFLES…well, for the most part. Haha.
I agree that SOME countries do make SOME products that are just as good as the ones made here in America. I’d be lying if I said Sako/Tikka built inferior guns just because they’re made in Finland. They are a high quality product, so I do see quality in A FEW imports; of course, I’ve never, EVER had a problem with my Rugers (pistols or rifles), so if American works, why change it? But like a few of you have posted already, finding 100% American Made ANYTHING is difficult; that’s one of the reasons the only guns I own are old Colts, old Smith & Wessons, and Rugers. With it being so easy/cost effective to make the “right” business decision and save a couple bucks, I’ve always hatted business ethics (and I use the term “ethics” with the utmost looseness), and I’ve always taken opposition with putting money before people. It just feels good to be able to stick out my chest and know that in some small way, I gave something back to this country. That, and in some small way say, give the middle finger to those who keep their moral compass tucked inside their wallets. I’d buy an import before I’d buy a 1/2-made American gun. Is that odd? Maybe a little.

I was interested to hear about Remington’s make-here, assemble-there, and ship-back-here way of business. Like a fellow poster, I am skeptical of this. It just sounds…goofy.

Someone also said something about some Winchesters being made in Japan. WHAT?!?! How can I tell if a Winchester is a “true” Winchester or not? I love the Win. 70, but it does disappoint me to think of it being made elsewhere.
 
Someone also said something about some Winchesters being made in Japan. WHAT?!?! How can I tell if a Winchester is a “true” Winchester or not? I love the Win. 70, but it does disappoint me to think of it being made elsewhere.

It will say made in Japan...it might even say made by Miroku. The Lever actions and the 1885 are made in Japan. Same with the Browning bolt actions and B78.

The Winchester Model 70 has been made in New Haven Connecticut or Columbia South Carolina.
 
Try and buy a fishing reel made in U.S.A. and a lot of other things we like, very hard to find anymore.

Easy enough to do - just saw some top of the line fly reels - ranging in price from 850 to $3200 - you can buy ANYTHING you want and have it made it here - but if you want walmart pricing - it isn't going to happen - so you have to decide just how far your loyalty goes in that regard
 
Rifles similar to this have been made in this country for 2 centuries. Some real fine gunsmiths are still around if you look for them.

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Try and buy a fishing reel made in U.S.A. and a lot of other things we like, very hard to find anymore. Al

Oh man, tell me about it!! I am one of those who will go out of his way to buy american, but you're right, some things are impossible to find anymore. I RARELY go fishing, but bought all the gear for the few times that I do. Was happy to find spinning rods made in USA, but the reel was a different story, had to go with a Shinan-something.:(

Same thing with baseball, which I just recently got back into. Was shocked to see that american made baseballs DO NOT EXIST!! Which got me looking into other all-american sports. So sad to find out that ALL the balls for baseball, football, and basketball are ALL made elsewhere.:barf:

But, you can only do so much I guess, and when possible, I buy american...especially on materials for my company's construction projects. When thats not possible, I buy the best of the foreign stuff. And I avoid Chinese products like the plague.... cuz thats kinda what they are.:D
 
St. Croix rods and reels are made in Park Falls, Wisconsin, for American-made fishing equipment that doesn't break the wallet too badly. There are a number of custom rod makers in the U.S. as well, if you've got the $$$ for them ($4,000 rods - LOL). Oh, and I too have a Ruger. Hard to get them right now as they're so behind on production vs. demand. We try to buy American when we can. That said, we also have a Browning rifle, but that's stamped made in Japan. At least it's not China :).
 
Oh man, tell me about it!! I am one of those who will go out of his way to buy american, but you're right, some things are impossible to find anymore. I RARELY go fishing, but bought all the gear for the few times that I do. Was happy to find spinning rods made in USA, but the reel was a different story, had to go with a Shinan-something.:(

Same thing with baseball, which I just recently got back into. Was shocked to see that american made baseballs DO NOT EXIST!! Which got me looking into other all-american sports. So sad to find out that ALL the balls for baseball, football, and basketball are ALL made elsewhere.:barf:

But, you can only do so much I guess, and when possible, I buy american...especially on materials for my company's construction projects. When thats not possible, I buy the best of the foreign stuff. And I avoid Chinese products like the plague.... cuz thats kinda what they are.:D
Can't say anything about baseballs and such but the NFL only uses Wilson footballs which are made in Ada, Ohio.

The world’s only dedicated football factory:
In 1955 Wilson opened the Wilson Football factory in Ada, Ohio to ensure that Wilson footballs would not only be American made, but the highest quality footballs ever produced. To this day, the world leader in football continues to produce all of its footballs right here in America in the world's only dedicated football factory.

In fact, since 1941 every NFL game ball that's appeared in Super Bowl competition has been made at the Wilson Football Factory. That means every Super Bowl touchdown pass caught or extra point kicked has been scored with an American-made football. The quality of the Official NFL Football is a direct result of the professionalism and skilled craftsmanship of the workers in Ada. Whether you cut pants, sew the footballs or turn them right side out, everyone at the Wilson Football Factory shares the goal of producing the highest quality football in the game. That dedication to quality has made Wilson a big part of American football lore.
 
I can't believe no one mentioned Tompson Center. 100% American Made and some mighty fine rifles to boot.
 
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