Ammo prices

[KY DAN]

I was on midway and kicks and giggles I looked at 9mm ammo prices after hearing so much talk at the gun range 3. (No I did not think I would buy any)

So it seems 9mm is $400 to $600 per 1000 rounds.

What was the before covid 19 prices, like 2019 and up?

I always reloaded 9MM and 223 and never paid attention to the price of factory ammo for like the last 6 years because having a reliable supply was more important than the money possible saved using factory ammo.

 

[gifbohane]

You could buy Russian steel for ten cents. Still can get it but it has probably quadrupled.

 

[buddyd157]

i had bought 9MM online for around $150 for 1,000 rds, and at the LGS, about $170.

then slowly the prices rose from there. i should also point out, i started buying bulk ammo back in February of this year.

 

[Hartkopf]

17 cents per round for 9mm was common. You could find cheaper but 17 cents was everywhere in 2019.

 

[wiscoaster]

Back then I usually didn't buy any 9mm unless it was on sale at less than $10 per box of 50 rounds.

 

[Meeks36]

Last year academy had S&B 9mm for $7.00 per box no limit. Wish I would have bought it all. Only got 40 boxs. Want make that mistake again. When ammo prices calm down. I will have my closet full of 9mm.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Have reloaded for 40 odd years now.

Don’t care about factory prices as I don’t buy factory, I reload.

 

[Old Dog]

Have reloaded for 40 odd years now.

Don’t care about factory prices as I don’t buy factory, I reload.

We're talking about factory ammo prices, we don't care if you reload, either. Starting to wonder about all the re-loaders who chime in to any thread about ammo when the discussion pertains to factory ammunition. Are you compelled to brag, is it some form of self-righteous better than you-ness that must be trumpeted to the membership? Some of us re-load AND buy lots of factory ammo.

Last year, before the panic, 500 rounds of loose factory Gold Dot 124 gr JHPs, $179.00;
500 rounds boxed and loose Golden Saber 124 gr +P JHPs, $159.00. I was ordering 1000 round cases of various domestic and foreign manufacturers' 115 or 124 grain FMJ 9mm for anywhere from $139 to $179.


Yesterday, just bought two 50 round boxes (limit per customer) of 124 gr 9mm FMJ Blazer Brass at my local Bi-Mart for $11.97 a piece -- not awful, not pre-panic prices -- but some retailers are refusing to price-gouge right now. Didn't need it, but they had three shelves full, so I picked up two boxes for my buddy who just got back from Afghanistan and got caught by surprise by the "shortages."

 

[guyfromohio]

I was on midway and kicks and giggles I looked at 9mm ammo prices after hearing so much talk at the gun range 3. (No I did not think I would buy any)

So it seems 9mm is $400 to $600 per 1000 rounds.

What was the before covid 19 prices, like 2019 and up?

I always reloaded 9MM and 223 and never paid attention to the price of factory ammo for like the last 6 years because having a reliable supply was more important than the money possible saved using factory ammo.

Online prices mean nothing if it’s out of stock.

 

[DDDWho]

I’m not in bad shape on any ammo that I use but I’m not going to shoot much either until replacement costs go down. I bought some 300 BO a year ago for $0.40 per round. Checking prices now for the same brand from the same seller it is now $1.80 per. I’m gonna set on what I have and wait and pray the zombies don’t come after my stuff.

 

[DustyGmt]

I placed a 9mm wolf order back in April with an october delivery date, the price was $180 per K. That delivery just got pushed to January from sportmans guide. I'm hoping they honor the original price since it was pre ordered, not sure how that works and havent had time to look into it. Either way, I'm lower than I want to be on 9mm and avoid paying $400 per K at all costs.


It's strange, in previous ammo panics I never had a problem finding hunting cartridges and 12ga but this time around everything is gone. Surprisingly I have a harder time finding ammo online but lately I have better luck at the gun shop. I've got about 900rds of 9mm left and a sealed 800rd tin I hope I dont have to crack open, the rest of my 9mm is premium, not target ammo....

 

[Alex Clayton]

The stuff I have here was all around $12 a box delivered for brass case. You could pretty much weekly find it a little cheaper at the different large stores that always had it on sale. To me its worth the extra couple bucks a case to just have it dropped at my door. Several stores and dealers still sell it at this price but, it of course goes out as fast as it comes in. Last great panic ended, like they all do. When they end the shelves fill, stuff is on sale, people ignore it. Another panic comes along, the same people start claiming it will never come back <Sigh>
This panic too will end. In the mean time? You either pay the going rate, which will vary with the market, or keep searching the places that do not scalp, or wait. People love to show and tell ads for prices at quite high asking. Don't want it? Don't buy it. When it stops selling the price goes back down. Next time shelves are full and it's on sale remember yet another panic shortage. There will be another one.

 

[George P]

17 cents per round for 9mm was common. You could find cheaper but 17 cents was everywhere in 2019.

And when ordered online form places like TargetSportsUSA, that was a delivered price for my Speer Lawman 124 TMJ

 

[DustyGmt]

And when ordered online form places like TargetSportsUSA, that was a delivered price for my Speer Lawman 124 TMJ

TargetSports was always my go to. Not only did they have the best prices, I got my deliveries always the following day after ordering. There a few hours from me in CT but I feel bad for anybody who paid for a prime ammo membership from them as they have basically had nothing in stock and when they do the prices are inedible....

 

[Old Hat]

I for one, am planning to avoid a lot of retailers, in the future, that I used to buy from regularly, on any items.

I really don’t appreciate how they have handled all of this, gouging, and selling their stock on GB instead of putting it on the shelf. I think the reason they do that (in some cases) is to save face, because they know it looks bad to demand the 4-6x the price for the same thing, on a retail front. But to answer the OP’s question, pistol rounds of 9mm are currently at least 2X what they were in Jan., in the vast majority of larger retailers and distributors, while a few special ones are Scrooge McDucking it at 5-8X the price.

I won’t but any of it! It sucks, but I’ll shoot arrows and throw rocks first. Maybe a good time to buy a higher caliber airgun?

I also think these more frequent events are gonna push more people out of hunting and shooting. How could it not? It can’t possibly be good for organizations like NRA, and like other markets suffer, when manipulated by combining factors. How are gun sales going to look comparatively for the last quarter of the year, when buying a “new caliber” is often put on hold because of lead prices or availability? It also can’t be good for gun sales.

 

[DerMerchant]

Kicking myself for not ordering a few thousand rounds when I could. At least I have enough 5.56

 

[KY DAN]

So the question becomes will the 9MM and 223 become financial unsuitable if prices do not return to pre panic prices?

I know its tin foil hat stuff, maybe the game is now to price the public out of the owning of arms considered "unsuitable" for civilian ownership. After all without the ammo you own a stick or club.

 

[SharpDog]

I bought a bunch of 9mm, stopped buying when it went above $.38 / rd delivered. I then bought more than 4x that of .22 lr and three .22 lr pistols. Should have enough to extend practice for another 4 years which is about double what I had on hand in those calibers. All together I figure it amounts to just under $0.18 / rd all in, including the three new pistols.

 

[film495]

So the question becomes will the 9MM and 223 become financial unsuitable if prices do not return to pre panic prices?

I know its tin foil hat stuff, maybe the game is now to price the public out of the owning of arms considered "unsuitable" for civilian ownership. After all without the ammo you own a stick or club.

Probably not, they didn't just add a bunch of new taxes on ammo that I know of or anything. It is all supply and demand. High demand, and no added supply, prices go up. If demand stays up - and supply catches up, prices will be lower than they were before - due to economies of scale.

 

[Hartkopf]

Probably not, they didn't just add a bunch of new taxes on ammo that I know of or anything. It is all supply and demand. High demand, and no added supply, prices go up. If demand stays up - and supply catches up, prices will be lower than they were before - due to economies of scale.

But “they” did cause the huge spike in demand (riots and demoralized policy) that really sent the panic over the top which caused supply to fall behind.

 

[Old Hat]

Another great question is what will the price settle at when this is all over? It’s like gasoline.. Every time it makes big big jumps quick, it never goes back to true supply v demand pricing. 22lr was 2-3 cents before the 1st shortage.

So the question becomes will the 9MM and 223 become financial unsuitable if prices do not return to pre panic prices?

I know its tin foil hat stuff, maybe the game is now to price the public out of the owning of arms considered "unsuitable" for civilian ownership. After all without the ammo you own a stick or club.

It’s not nearly as “tin foil” as probably we think it is!

Australia. Look at what happened there. Stamps, taxes, permits..... money$$$.

Cost.... is a big deal.... the biggest deal, and clearly California is using taxes and rising costs as a practical tactic to not only price people out of shooting sports, but the effects are far more cascading and far reaching.

To quote Edward the Longshanks in Braveheart, “The trouble with Scotland is that it’s full of Scots”!
Many people have left California because they are tired of their rights being taken, if not their aching wallets, just trying to participate at all!

Most dedicated people will try and afford their passions somehow, but it should be said that, perhaps even the vast majority of people who own a-gun..... are not that dedicated, or expanding their firearms interests! Inside the bubble of like thinkers, it’s easy to lose sight of that simple but powerful reality. And a small group of dedicated folks will not sustain 2A, because when do a small % of people ever matter nationally, even when (especially when) they have the right idea?

So yes, I believe that antis are watching and taking notes on it all. Which is why I think commerce laws might help this situation if applied. The pricing problem, because it’s guns.... is largely ignored by the general public. But if it were say..... food, or phones suddenly jumping 3,4,5X in price, or beer....then yes you’d absolutely see protections laws applied, just like with the guys gouging PPE.

It illustrates that firearms are not considered “essential”..”protected”, like these other items, but a “privilege” to own, by the government, and society at large! Even though 2A guarantees it.

 

[jhb]

I was used to paying 9 to around 11 bucks a box of premium (meaning quality maker and brass not junk maker pumping out junk steel stuff) target factory ammo of 50. box by box prices mean for that price range....not in bulk. in bulk it was less.

I have enough stocked up im sitting out this run up. this run up has been crazier than the last run ups and shortages. the prices went up then but not like this. also the shortages were there, but this time is far worse.

 

[mmb617]

So it seems 9mm is $400 to $600 per 1000 rounds.

What was the before covid 19 prices, like 2019 and up?

About this time last year I could buy Blazer Brass 9mm at my local Dunhams @ 2 boxes (100 rounds) for $17.

I was talking to someone at the club last week who had paid $50 for 50 rounds at a local gun store recently. That's just insane.

 

[George P]

About this time last year I could buy Blazer Brass 9mm at my local Dunhams @ 2 boxes (100 rounds) for $17.

I was talking to someone at the club last week who had paid $50 for 50 rounds at a local gun store recently. That's just insane.

Not if you do not have any.

 

[KY DAN]

Not if you do not have any.

This is what I am talking about, eventually the price of 9am and 223 will deter people from buying it.

I spend roughly 100 dollars a week on groceries. At this point 100 rounds of 9 is my grocery money. No one in their right mind will go a week without food to have 100 rds of ammo.

This whole situation is a sounding test to see how far the situation can go.

Our ammo will not come down in price after the election bo matter who is elected. The anti gunners are and will starve us out metaphorically speaking.