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Would you join in stopping high demand ammo purchases?

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The range I belong to has them for $19 and they've been pretty good about keeping it in stock.

There purchase limit policy is what ever you buy you have to shoot it there that day, but they let me pick up some back up.

-Robb
 
My Walmart has nothing or little to nothing but the gun shop I go to has .45 and .223 stacked 4 feet high along a 15' wall. The price is alittle high but they have it and lots of it.
 
Dealer buring bridges

The dealer I have patronized for many years has really taken advantage of the ammo/rifle shortage. He got several cases of primers in and is only selling them on the internet. He has raised his transfer fees from $20.00 to $45.00. Stocked ammo priced nearly doubled when he saw what everyone else was getting. I know a guy has a right to make a buck, but trading short term gains for long standing loyalty is not a smart buisness decision. Guess I'll order ALL my stuff on the internet from now on.
 
Your choice not to pay his prices, just as it was his choice to raise his prices dramatically.

Got another local place to go to?
 
What Tim said

I just paid $23.00 a 50 rd. box for some Federal AE .357 mag JSP today. More than I wanted to, but no one was pointing a gun at my head. If they were, there's a pretty good chance they didn't have ammo for it! :neener:

Sorry.........I couldn't resist. :D
 
I've never got a good deal from a gun shop.

I've gotten nothing but good deals FTF and at Gunshows.
 
I feel your pain. My favorite gun shop is slowly, but surely, falling into that. They raised the price of a used gun on me $200 from one day to the next just because they saw what they were going for on Gunbroker.
 
I had a dealer who raised his fees for out of state transfers to a hundred bucks! Needless to say,I just go across town to where they're still just twenty five dollars.All scalpers like that are doing is driveing customers over to those folks that are still honest.
In the long run,they may think they're smart,but the honest guys get my buisiness.
 
Having gone through several panic-periods I can say from experience that what goes around will eventually come around. When that happens remember to see that the good dealers get your business, even if it costs a little more. In the end the goughers will learn the hard way. :uhoh:
 
Look at it this way...the local dealer probably gets hit with "I can get it on the internet for $X" every day.

He might feel that he can make a few extra bucks, but in the long run it will come back to him.

On the other hand, would you really NOT buy anything from him because of this?
 
Everyone of us should remember when and where the dealers are that take advantage of their regular customers. I know I will remember and tell other people. Profit is profit but some are way out of line.
 
I'm a schoolteacher and an FFL.

I have little formal business training, but I have learned over the years:

1. If the item is priced too high- no one will buy it. PERIOD. EVER. (But what may be too high for YOU, may be a bargain for the next guy). If it is priced too high for you, it isn't necessarily price gouging:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging

2. If the item is priced too low- some guy will buy all of them and resell that item at THEIR price. (if I offered up twenty boxes of .380 on the WTS forum @ $10 each would you warn me I was giving it away? I doubt it. You would email an "I'll take it!" faster than Obama gives away cash and two hundred other guys would bomb me with emails asking if I had more.:D)

3. Profit is the difference between what I paid for the item and what I sell it for, minus my expenses. Having a PROFITABLE BUSINESS is understanding that I have to price items at my replacement cost. (Example: I buy 1000 boxes of WWB 9mm @ $10 each. I sell those for $15 each, my gross profit is $5 per box. When I go to reorder I discover that my supplier has now increased the wholesale cost to $16 per box. I'm SOL! Before I price an item I had better know what my replacement cost will be. If I don't I'll be out of business pretty fast.) If the item is unobtainable from my wholesaler, i better price my stock with that in mind.

4. Planning is good. Waiting until election eve to order ammunition, AR lowers, large capacity magazines, etc. isn't the fault of your dealer.

5. Capitalism is good.

WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US........ as in us, the firearms community, we are solely responsible for the current ammunition shortage.
Our own panic buying and hoarding have created a situation similiar to the run on the silver market in the 1970's. Like that this too will pass.








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Dealers who are gouging may be cutting their own future profits. They could also be stocking up cash in case they are legislated out of business.

I think the Gun business is here to stay so jacking prices leads to shor term only gain. I've tried to keep 2RCo grip prices fair and was recently told I wasn't charging enough by some competitors. Well I'll charge what I feel is fair compared to what the product costs me to produce/purchase.
 
You are assuming the dealer is making all the profit on the higher prices. Hasn't the wholesale price he must pay on primers/ammo/guns also gone up?

This is the free market at work. People say they want a free market until prices go up due to demand then they scream like stuck pigs about how unfair it is. If everybody sat back for a couple weeks prices would come down. It's the panic buying driving prices up.
 
If everybody sat back for a couple weeks prices would come down. It's the panic buying driving prices up.
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I'm prepared to set back for good. I haven't purchased any ammo at the newly inflated prices and don't plan to.
 
If you were selling a firearm from your collection to finance another purchase or you needed to free up some funds would you charge a "fair" price or "market value?"

If it were me, I would price it "fairly" according to "market conditions"

Some people really need lessons in market economics. Might solve a lot of our current problems.
 
Gander mountain south of Detroit (Taylor) had Remington FMJ for $69.99/50. No joke. .45 GAP for $49.99 and .40 S&W valu packs for $200/200. That's the only thing they had on their shelves. Oh and wildcat .22 for $5/50. The rumor is that they hit up the walmarts and mejier (local chain grocery store) and buy out their stock, bring it back, and resell it.

I will not be buying anything from them in the future after ammo-craze-2009 dies out
 
WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY AND HE IS US........ as in us, the firearms community, we are solely responsible for the current ammunition shortage.
Our own panic buying and hoarding have created a situation similiar to the run on the silver market in the 1970's. Like that this too will pass.
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If every gun owner would NOT buy ANYTHING for a period of about 60 days, this whole thing would be over. If you want to see why prices are high and supply is short, just look in the mirror. Every time you pay a scalper price for primers, powder, guns etc, you just lie down on the ground and let them walk on you and become part of the problem.
 
Another thread detailing how those dirty capitalists have struck again! If only you the consumer had the option to NOT BUY a product you deem to be priced too high. If only you had choice in whom you buy from. If only the government could step in and save us from ourselves with some sort of price control legislation. :rolleyes:
 
just saw it....they always seemed to have decent prices until now. It's a shame another company went down the low road. Most local stores here in NOLA seem to be taking the high road.....
 
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