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Would you join in stopping high demand ammo purchases?


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TRGRHPY said:
BTW, is it intentional or just a gift?

I won't answer your cryptic, even "smart-ass" question (your words), but I will say that if you demand that employees be concerned about your well-being and satisfaction, I wouldn't shop at Wal-Mart. The problem for you now is that there's no such thing as a "Five Star Ammunition Dealer".

For what it's worth, I've had success limiting the vendor's involvement as much as possible. When buying ammunition (in Wal-Marts with the "ammo island") I ask them if I can come behind the counter and pick out what I want. Other times I can't find the guy with the key to the cabinet anyway, so I help myself and look for what I want. Once I find it, I pick up the fancy phone and say "Customer assistance to Sporting Goods, Customer assistance to sporting goods" with a cadence at the end. When I want to know when they'll be getting ammo, I'll ask, they'll inevitably say "I don't know" and we're done.

<edit> That being said, I don't doubt for a second that the guy you dealt with today was a jerk with poor customer service. :)
 
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Good luck trying to find components.

There's a shop here in town that has an RCBS starter kit with a quarter inch of dust on the box, pallets stacked a foot deep in primers, bullets and powders galore at two shops...I have plenty of brass from years of keeping it. I could be reloading by sundown tomorrow. In fact, the ONLY caliber this shop is sold out of is .380...pallets of everything else.
 
There's a shop here in town that has an RCBS starter kit with a quarter inch of dust on the box, pallets stacked a foot deep in primers, bullets and powders galore at two shops...I have plenty of brass from years of keeping it. I could be reloading by sundown tomorrow. In fact, the ONLY caliber this shop is sold out of is .380...pallets of everything else.

You lucky son-of-a-gun. Maybe I need to move to Georgia.
 
Regarding the original post, I work at Wal-Mart. And yes, dealers (not necessarily shop owners) are buying massive amounts of ammo as soon as they know it's in stock. And I have had guys wait 3+hours just to see if we get any ammo off the trucks. That said, we've had dealers buy 400 boxes of Federal .223 Rem 45gr JHP (200rd boxes) at about $77 a box. Then, they turned around and resold it at a gun show for $200 a box. And people were buying it!
 
That said, we've had dealers buy 400 boxes of Federal .223 Rem 45gr JHP (200rd boxes) at about $77 a box. Then, they turned around and resold it at a gun show for $200 a box. And people were buying it!

Well, if someone pays that for it then they are as much a part of the problem as the guy selling it.
 
Yep. Though, we're all mightily urinated off at our store manager for explicitly forbidding us from limiting sales; as far as he's concerned a sale's a sale, and as long as his store's making money, he doesn't care how....

... Greedy :cuss:
 
By asking open and closed ended question, instead of accepting "NO", you can get information to help you purchase things
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If you ask a closed ended question , the answer will be yes or no.

The guy works at Wal-Mart for crying out loud , and is probably just a counter sales person , and very well may not know the information you wanted , give him a break.

I was at WalMart last week when a guy was irate that they did not have any hand gun ammo , he stepped to the side , still giving the clerk a hard time. I bought the last 5 boxes of 550 rnd Federal 22LR they had left... he turned to me and said " I was planning on buying some".... so I turned to loudmouth and said " Well , looks like they are out of that too now "

;)
 
Other times I can't find the guy with the key to the cabinet anyway, so I help myself and look for what I want. Once I find it, I pick up the fancy phone and say "Customer assistance to Sporting Goods, Customer assistance to sporting goods" with a cadence at the end.

The regular store I go to has the same set-up. A big store like that and they only have one set of keys, and that one set gets bounced around from one employee to the next and it's usually the employee who's on break. haha I think I'm going to petition them for my own set next week.

That's funny. You know someone who works there is thinking "who's the new guy in sporting goods?" :D



If you ask a closed ended question , the answer will be yes or no.

I'm aware of that. Instead of accepting a single blanket statement of "no", by asking further questions, open or closed-ended, you still get more information than the original answer. By asking open-ended q's you can potentially get more info than a closed-end, but if the person isn't being talkative then asking specific closed-end q's will be more productive.

The guy works at Wal-Mart for crying out loud , and is probably just a counter sales person , and very well may not know the information you wanted , give him a break.

Well the guy who just changes my oil had better know how to tighten my drainplug properly.

I have always heard bosses tell people that if they don't like their job, they can find another one.

First of all, I tried to ask him a simple question in a polite fashion and he cut me off with a very sarcastic answer and tone....completely unnaceptable. I don't care if he works at walmart kmart or savemart, you don't respond that rudely to customers who politely ask you a question, even if you have already answered it 200 times in the last hour.

Second, when I worked in sales, if I didn't know the answer to something I took the time to find out for the person. Why? Because it's called courtesy.

I was completely polite to the guy while I was trying to get any information from him. I didn't make the comment to him until after he gave me his final sarcastic episode (dirty look and sarcastic sigh).

I have two stores to compare, the store that I regularly go to and the one I went to today, and they handle the same situation completely opposite. The regular store knows and accepts that the ammunition situation sucks and they try to be as helpfull to their customers as possible. I have watched many different employees speak to many different customers besides myself, and they do as good a job as they possibly can. The other store's employee had a completely rude and uncalled for and unhelpfull attitude. I wasn't expecting 5-star service, just service with a smile. Like I said earlier, there are a lot of people who would gladly take his place if he hates working with customers so much.
 
He was likely saying whatever he thought would make you stop asking quesions and leave as quickly as possible.
Yeah, that happens to me a lot.

I heard at my local Wally that its just a national conspiracy against you.
They have your picture posted in the employee break room and the reason they were taking so long to get to the counter was because they were hiding the ammo from you.
I knew it!
 
I stopped by a wal-mart saturday to see if they had anything... the cupboards were bare, apart from a couple boxes of .45 auto. Guy after me asks if they have any .45 ACP. Clerk says no.

I tell the guy there are 2 boxes on the bottom shelf. Clerk says "what's ACP mean?"


Me::uhoh:
 
Same thing for me...

I ask if they have in 22lr in bulk packs...

Clerk says "nope, all out!"

I say "whats that right there?":scrutiny:

Clerk says "oh thats Federal AutoMatch, 325 round bulk pack"

I say "I'll take it":rolleyes:
 
This pops up over and over. Service isn't free. Walmart pays close to minimum wage to all the floor people to keep the store presentable and functioning. If you want good customer service with people who actually have a clue what the product is, go to some place like sportsman's warehouse.
 
What the hell are you folks doing?

Look at yourselves.

You sound like a bunch of spoilt brats with nothing better to do than whine and carry on because some store "won't let" , or "you can't" or some other whiny butt something or another.

Internet is Global.
This Gun Forum is Global.

I hope like hell Wal-Mart threads become another Subject THR does not allow.
Personally, I am sick and damn tired of them.

Yeah, I hate Wal-Mart. MY Reasons go w-a-y back to the early days of Wal-Mart, Dollar General and Family Dollar Stores.
This is before some members were an itch in their daddy's britches.
Go look up these stores, with histories and beginnings.


Yes, I have met Sam Walton. Nice guy, and his fear, was Wal-Mart becoming what it has. Politics is my reason and that is all I will say about that.

The REALITY is...
I have moved some states away, and in a rural area. This is place is not even big enough to get a dot on a map.

I have one "store" in town, a gas station/convenience store up near the highway.
The closest town to me, of any size, that has anything is about 15 miles away.
And you guessed it.
Wal-mart is what you do. The Mom & Pops have retired, died off, or whatever.
The next "big city" for me is 30 miles or so.
That is where I had to take back the Rental Stuff I used in moving.

I am told if I really want to buy firearm stuff, I need to travel about 60 miles away.

I ain't the only member around here that is not living in a big city with "choices".

Oh I have lived in bigger cities. Oh I had mom and pop gun stores, and Franchises like Academy and Ganders.
Ganders tee totally pissed me off, and I and mine had just dropped about $3000.00 in a week's time.

They totally talked down to a little girl. Not just one, other gun folks did too.
Well behaved young lady and she was just looking at the "pretty guns" and not even touching them.
Heck the expensive Beretta O/U in the special showcase, she did not put finger prints on the glass.

That matter was "dealt with". Trust me, it is a good thing I took the little girl outside, because I was livid!
I let her mom and some other ladies do the "hell hath no fury like a momma having her daughter treated like that!"

Wal-Mart is a hot topic that cannot be discussed on THR. I have already asked Staff to make it one of the "off limit" subjects.

Do you folks not realize, we have members that are Anti's? They know darn well what buttons to push around here to get folk riled up.

Have you folks not noticed when some political something or legislative thing is going down, the influx of trouble makers that post as they do around here?
Trust me, some of what has gone on, has been in the wee hours and some of us have assisted Staff in cleaning up, and you folks never saw the threads.


Do you think these Anti's actually quote you correctly and use what you type in the context you mean it?

WE are our own worst enemies.

Hey, some folks do not have the choices others do around here in where they buy.
Some have all sorts of reasons as to why there are limits, or mdse is not available.
Some is local "reasons" from political flavor, to legislative to who know what, including Econ 101.

i.e. The nearest Wal-Mart to me, pulled all Zippo products.
I mean even the flints and wicks have been pulled.

The store mangers are not happy at all. They cannot get a straight answer.
Why are these Wal-Mart employees, and again, mgmt upset?

Because they looked me in the eyeball and said Zippo Lighters were one of the fire making tools that allowed them to survive some serious weather.
Zippo, Firesteel, Matches and Bic.
The Zippo worked best in the wind and weather.

Oh you can get Ronson fuel, and Ronson flints at the tobacco dept in WM, just you cannot find a wick if your life depended on it.
The Ronson fuel is fine, just is wise to use Zippo flints in a Zippo due to the length of the flint and hardness of flint.

So...I will have wait for someone to send me wicks, and flints.
I cannot even buy another Zippo locally, not that I am aware of, and I have called around.

A little tip.
It is going to get worse before it gets better.
I was around in the 80's when interest rates shot up and gold went over $800 an ounce.
I was around in the 70's when the economy had problems and I was around in the 60's with civil unrests...and even remember as a kid, when Milk was hard to get.
So babies got the real milk, and powdered milk was used for cooking and everything else.

Guess what folks? A Staff member has shared with me more than once this year, Milk is hard to get where he lives.

Suggestion:
Don't go to Walmart.
If you do, quit bitchin' about it, on public forums.

Better yet, if Staff makes Wal-Mart threads off limits, we won't have to worry about it and Anti's will have to find another forum to get posts about Gun Owners and WalMart.


Then with the free time folks will have, not having WM threads, they can write letters to legislators and other RKBA stuff.
 
Did you know walmart built its empire selling ONLY products made in the USA? They eventually, after Sam stepped aside got in trouble for actually faking it and applying made in the usa labels to crap made in foreign sweat shops. This is when they just took over and ran nearly every mom and pop right outta business, and undermined our entire economy.
 
Did an ammo check at my Wally World last friday.
Empty shelves.
Was talking to the guy behind the counter and he told me he has no idea when more is coming but......

When it does come in there will be a limit of 2 boxes per customer in each caliber.

AFS
 
Each Wally World store gets a print out of every item on every incoming Walmart truck, Howsomeever, I believe ammo comes via a different delivery system. Therefore, employees probably don't know exactly when their shipment is coming in.
 
There's a shop here in town that has an RCBS starter kit with a quarter inch of dust on the box, pallets stacked a foot deep in primers, bullets and powders galore at two shops...I have plenty of brass from years of keeping it. I could be reloading by sundown tomorrow. In fact, the ONLY caliber this shop is sold out of is .380...pallets of everything else.



Where is this shop????
 
Stopped by wally world on Friday on my way home from work just to see what they had. 4 boxes of 45 ACP Blazer Brass for $15 a piece. I bought two boxes...wish now I bought all 4 but I don't even have a .45...yet.

That was about all they had of their usual good deal ammo.
 
jorb

No they don't. I unloaded the trucks there for eight months before getting the transfer to Sporting Goods. We get a sheet with all the hazardous/flammable materials (matches, fireworks, flammable/corrosive chemicals) and time-sensitive/fragile things (namely, plants.)
Otherwise, we just get the number of cases of freight in the trailer, and any Site-to-Store items (special orders online) included. That said, getting a printout of ALL the items in EVERY truck would be rather difficult; my store handles between 1500 and 6000 cases of merchandise daily. I'm not trying to argue, just clarifying.
 
I haven't seen any 9mm Winchester white box at the local WallyWorld in 10 weeks now, including again this morning. I was on the other side of the mountains for the weekend and stopped into a WallyWorld there, as well as at two gun shops, and no one had any 9mm of any stripe. All of these operations were short of .380, .32, and even .25 caliber ammo. All of them were adequately suplied with .40S&W, however.
 
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