Ammo Shortage merged threads, aka UberUltraMasterAmmoThreadOfPower

[Redneck with a 40]

I've got 2000 rounds of .22, enough to carry me for ahwile. I've backed off of my plinking though, just 20 rounds/week, gotta make it last.

 

[hornadylnl]

nalapambu -"So it's not hoarding till you get to 100,000 rounds?

Umm...yeah OK.

Exactly what is the weird thing that's going on right now?

Another part of the problem is that a large number of people that are hoarding ammo and buying 15 AR receivers, 75 or 100 AR mags, 50 Hi Cap Glock mags and the like is that they are HOPING something happens so that they can come back and sell what they HOARDED away for DOUBLE and TRIPLE their investment.

Watch and see, gun owners and 2nd Amendment supporters are going to PAY dearly for this behavior in the future.

So go right ahead and keep on buyin'. Hell if ya only got 35,000 rounds of 22LR, 15,000 rounds of 9mm and 45ACP and 25,000 rounds of .223, it's not hoarding until you get to 100,000 of each!

BD"


I've bought about 25 bulk packs in the time period of 4-8 months ago from Wallyworld when they still had plenty of it and I haven't shot the first round of it. Does that make you feel better? I bought a bunch of primers, brass, bullets and powder about a year ago. Does that make you feel better? I have more than 1 ar receiver. Does that make you feel better?

I didn't buy this stuff so I can resell it to make a fortune. I bought it because I know most gun owners aren't smart enough to stock up and only buy ammo on the way to the range. They shoot it all up so they have none at home. Now if the SHTF tomorrow, they are useless to help defend from whatever enemy is out there. I know that if I want to survive, I'm going to have to give them some of my ammo to help defend my area. In reality, I should let those freakin idiots die from their own stupidity.

Besides, if shtf, your paper money will be useless. My mags and ammo can be bartered for what I need.

For all of you whining about us hoarders, why don't you all write Obama and ask for government regulations controlling prices and quantities us free citizens can buy.

For as bad as our economy is, drive by the restraunts on the weekends and see how full they are. Take a look around and see how many $30k+ vehicles are out on the roads and in parking lots. Look at all the high dollar toys that people have. They chose to stick their heads in the sands and not prepare for times like this and now they expect those who were smarter than them to bend over backwards and cater to their stupidity and laziness by selling their stockpiles for chump change.

Sorry, I'm not feeling too sympathetic to your cause. Now, if the boy scouts can't shoot, send a few my way and I'll chip in a few boxes to help their cause.

 

[toivo]

I shoot a lot of .22LR. When prices started climbing, I figured I had a choice: buy whatever I can afford now, or wait until later and pay more. So every time I went through Wal-Mart, I would buy a brick, even though I already had plenty at home.

Nothing wrong with a "prudent reserve." I never cleaned out the shelves, but I did amass a little stockpile. And now that the shelves are bare, I'm glad I did. Now I have enough to tide me over until things settle down.

 

[deputy tom]

Maybe people are shooting .22s because that's all anyone can afford anymore these days. I saw .45 ammo once a couple weeks ago, but I'd rather pay rent this month.


BINGO! You've answered your own question I believe.tom.

 

[rickomatic]

The OP answered his own question in his original rant. He said he couldn't find any other calibers so he was switching over to .22 for now.
Ummmmmmmm..........what do you think everyone else is doing?

Now...all you guys just wait til things loosen up in a year or so and try to buy that brass catcher so you can police your brass easier. You won't find one anywhere to be had cause I'm buyin up all of them I can find. I've got cases and cases of them. It's all about timing my friends. I am gonna be ahead of the curve on the great brass catcher shortage when it hits. And don't come whining to me if my price on Ebay is too high when you're lookin for one...........

 

[KINGMAX]

Shooting less, buying more

I have been shooting more of the 22, and bying more of the hard to get stuff. I am keeping my shooting skills up with my 22 peices while trying to stock up on the centerfire stuff. Ammo as a whole will not get any cheaper than it was today whether it is in the 22 flavor or the big stuff.

 

[BlackHand1917]

I am not sure, but I think that people shoot a lot more ammo than they used to. Back in the eighties, I used to take about 100 rounds of 22LR to the range and I felt quite content, now I end up shooting about 250 rounds per range trip. When checking out a new mom n' pop sporting goods store the other day. I bought a little box of 50 Winchester .22LR's. I felt nostalgic because I hadn't bought such a small amount of .22 in 20 years.

 

[crazy-mp]

Zombie Squirrels

I just about fell out of my chair laughing at this one.

Another part of the problem is that a large number of people that... 75 or 100 AR mags, 50 Hi Cap Glock mags and the like is that they are HOPING....

So your mad because I have enough AR mags to supply a infantry platoon?


I have been shooting my .22's more and more for the past 2 years because the price of centre fire keeps going up and up. I have bolt actions, semi autos, revolvers and some semi auto pistols so I can practice making holes in paper at a fraction of the cost. Lets see .22 for .02 -.04 a round or .338 for 2.25 a round.....tough call.

Recently I picked up a Mitchell PPS 30 - for those of you who don’t know what that is, it looks like a PPSH, except in .22, a poor mans PPSH if you will. I cant justify spending 6k on a real one or 1k for a semi auto with a longer barrel.



20 rounds .223 or 550 rounds .22

Bottom line $

 

[22-rimfire]

Grocery run to Walmart this evening and swung by the sporting goods area. They had NO centerfire handgun ammo. They had a few boxes of CCI mini-mag 22's, and velocitors. They had a brick of Remington Subsonics which I purchased. They had maybe 10 boxes each of 22-250. 243, 270, 30-30,and 30-06. No 223. Walmart mentioned they got in a case of Federal bulk pack 22's (550 pack) and one customer bought all of them.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Don't know if it's been said yet, but if the ultimate chaos comes to pass, 22's will put a lot of squirrels and rabbits on the dinner table. I've got enough to keep me and mine fed 'till the end of my life time. A few supplemental deer, moose, antelope, elk, bear, and bison will be supplied with a few of the larger calibers I keep in stock.

(Eating grazing animals is a good way to get your vitamins for when veggies are in short supply. I call it "Eating your greens by proxy".)

Back to the topic of the 22's, they'll be good for barter, too.

Woody

 

[Redneck with a 40]

This gun and ammo bubble will burst, just like the housing bubble. All the tens of thousands of rounds of ammo, primers, mag's, 100 lbs of gunpowder, ect, will be worth half what you paid for it now. That's when I'll be laughing, when the hoarder's lose their a** on their investment.

 

[weisse52]

I the past my normal weekly range trip involved shooting about 100 - 200 rounds of .45 ACP, maybe about 50 - 100 rounds of .38 and maybe 200 .22.

Now I have been going to the range about once every two to three weeks. I am shooting about 50 to 100 .45, maybe 25 - 50 rounds of .38 and about 250 - 300 rounds of .22.

I have always had anywhere from 1000 to 2500 rounds of .22 on hand at any time. At latest count I have about 5000 rounds of .22 on hand. I am not hording, but when I want to shoot I do not want to go hunting for ammo before I can shoot. I have no plans to buy any more than I shoot so I will stay at the 5000 round mark.

If the suppy of .45 and .38 improves, or I finally get off my dead butt and start reloading again then I will back off on how much .22 I keep.

 

[22lr]

MY SHTF is a 10/22 so ive been buying all the 22lr I can. SO far ive got 1.6k but my gun doesn't shoot federal very well and since that's most of what my local walmart has in stock I haven't been able to get anymore recently.

 

[hornadylnl]

I bought a bunch of 22 for survival hunting but think about it. If the grocery stores close up, how long do you think the wild game population will last? I give them less than a week. You'll have better luck hunting on hog and cattle farms.

 

[Dismantler]

I started to get a really bad feeling about the economy and the political situation last summer. I bought nine boxes of Federal 550 .22 LR for the future. I bought them over several months. I see that I made a timely decision, as I can no longer get .22 ammo in bulk.

 

[DHJenkins]

I bought a couple .22's and a .22 conversion kit for my AR when 'the ammo situation' began because .22lr was plentiful.

Maybe people are doing the same thing and just using it more?

Not every situation is the result of people being mean or greedy - besides, it's cheaper to buy in bulk.

 

[MetalMan52]

22 ammo

I believe it's a combination of more folks shooting .22 for a variety of reasons and more people buying 22 rifles/pistols to shoot. Gun sales have been through the roof for months now and you have to feed all of these new guns being sold, some of them are .22's.
You can still afford to shoot 22's. I've never seen as many .22's being shot at the ranges as I do now days. My kids and I used to go out and shoot up a couple hundred rounds of .223 or 7.62x39 in an afternoon. Who can afford to do that now? We've switched to .22's.
Last evening the local Walmart had 6 Federal bulk packs, I picked up two of them, didn't clean them out. That will last us several afternoons.
There is some "hoarding" but think it's just way more people shooting way more .22's.
Pat

 

[ilbob]

Another part of the problem is that a large number of people that are hoarding ammo and buying 15 AR receivers, 75 or 100 AR mags, 50 Hi Cap Glock mags and the like is that they are HOPING something happens so that they can come back and sell what they HOARDED away for DOUBLE and TRIPLE their investment.

I have not seen any of that at all. A few people are buying for resale. Thats called a free market. We are in favor of that, right?

I don't know of anyone who is buying just to hoard it away with no plan to ever use it.

There is this general disquiet about the world as it is right now. The economy, our new president, the odd things going on around the world. I doubt anyone can put their finger on any one thing, but on the whole there is reason to be nervous. And buying guns and ammo when one is nervous about what might be going on is not totally irrational.

Being as the supply of guns and ammo is pretty inelastic, it does not take a whole lot of new demand to soak up whatever new supply could come into the market.

 

[Southern Rebel]

It is a sad fact, but the reality is we are dealing with HUMAN NATURE. There is something within us all that says if some object is rare and coveted by others, we MUST have it and stockpile it. I truly believe if someone started the rumor that skunk poop was a rare and coveted item, the stench from the basments of all neighborhoods would overwhelm us.


The human race has always adored the hatful of shells, or the bale of calico, or the half-bushel of brass rings, or the handful of steel fish-hooks, or the houseful of black wives, or the zareba full of cattle, or the two-score camels and asses, or the factory, or the farm, or the block of buildings, or the railroad bonds, or the bank stock, or the hoarded cash, or --anything that stands for wealth and consideration and independence, and can secure to the possessor that most precious of all things, another man's envy

[Mark Twain]

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

I went to 3 different Wallys last week - one (my town's) was completely out of ANY .22LR. the 2 others (one a super) had CCI Mini Mags (the super had about 12-15 100 round boxes) and the one had around 5-6 100 packs.
not a box of 'value pack' in any of them.
the 'mom & pop' I went to later on had some 'value packs' - just about 6-8 maybe but a fair amount of the 100 pack CCI and SuperX Win. also they had the sp mag primers I got for $22.40 per K.
standard sp and standard lp and standard sr was out of stock.

 

[DHJenkins]

I see a lot of people saying "I went to <this many places> looking for ammo".

I have one little question:

Why don't you call first?

My local academy got a couple cases of 9mm in on a sunday morning. They sold it all day long, but limited everyone to a few boxes a piece. I went looking for something else, but I always check the ammo counter just in case. I got lucky and got the last 2 boxes. Not 2 minutes later, someone came up and asked if they had any 9mm, which of course they didn't.

What the guy said next is the point of my post - "I've been to 6 different stores and I can't find squat". If he had just picked up the phone anytime between 9am-3pm (I got there at 4pm) he would saved gas, saved time and yes, gotten some ammo!

 

[Noebb]

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Wait! What!

People are stockpiling ammo?

I have heard rumors about AR ammo and the feared pistol calibers but .22 ammo?

It is the end of the world as I know it... I better start stockpiling too!


And I thought i was only supposed to stockpile rounds for assault rifles and handguns. Gland I read this post, I've been leaving .22 on the shelf.



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[Blackbeard]

Why don't you call first?

If they say they have some it's no guarantee it will be there when you get to the store.

 

[AllAmerican]

Seriously, who's bogarting all the .22 ammo?

I am...Getting what I can when I can.

I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm not going to be shooting my .45, my .38, or my 9 mm anytime soon. I get that people are stockpiling ammo due to concerns about Obama, the economy, Armageddon, whatever.

But why are people buying up all the .22 ammo? It's not a defense round. I'm pretty sure anything that shoots a .22 is pretty low on the list of potential bans.

I disagree on the defensive round thing.

All I want to do is go plinking. Y'all can have all the bigger rounds. I'll take my chances without it. Would people calm down just a little so a guy can go have some fun with his .22?

I dont take all of it. I leave some.

 

[federalfarmer]

I suggest if you see it you buy it. All of it. Hoard. And hoard some more.
Some of you need to get over yourselves! "leave some for me!"
NO!