An accurate CCW .45?

[devildog32713]

The first time I fired a Glock handgun (G19) I nailed a soda can in Uncle's backyard from 15-20 yards, with 1-2 shots, u need more practice time

 

[LiveLife]

My G30 is VERY accurate. both my G27 and G30 both get 2" groups at 10-15 yards off hand (to illustrate the accuracy of compact Glocks).

My Taurus PT145 (another compact 45 for CCW) is catching up to Glock accuracy as I have more trigger time on it.

I shoot my friends' XD45 compact, and it is also very accurate.

My combat accuracy drill for carry gun is notebook sized target at 5 yards shot with quick point shooting and not using sights - All the above mentioned qualify.

I have not shot the M&P 45 compact (I have a M&P in 40S&W), and I believe it will also be accurate.

 

[TXHORNS]

Practice more with your Glock and you'll be able to make that shot easy at 25 yards.

But trade it anyway for a 1911.

I would suggest an STI Escort.

 

[jody3870]

Accurate 45s

I own several Colts including a Gold Cup but my three Kimbers are far more accurate. Even the 4" bbl Pro CDP gives the Gold Cup a close race.

 

[orionengnr]

M2Carbine-nice Kimber, nice shooting
Walkalong--Nice Kimber.

About seven years ago I had sworn off 1911s due to several bad experiences. I owned P7s, j-frames and Glocks.

One time, at the range, my shooting buddy let me shoot his Kimber. I suddenly realized that his ability to blow the center out of his targets was not (necessarily) related to his skill level (and make no mistake; his ability and proficiency are noteworthy).

But shooting that 1911, my own results improved markedly. As I handed it back to him I smiled and said something to the effect of, Ow, that's gonna cost me.

Since then, I have owned eight Kimbers (in addition to a number of other 1911s) since then. And yeah, it's cost me a few bucks.

But these days I can punch the center out of my targets, and on a good day, I can give Jim a good run for his money.

And this applies to 3", 4" and 5" models. The shorter barrels have a shorter sight radius, and require a bit more concentration to overcome this, but they just as inherently accurate as the longer barrels.

 

[stork]

I had the opportunity to shoot a friends Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry II with a Crimson Trace last week. I was impressed. This was my first experience with either the lazer or the UCII.

The load was 4.4 gr 700x with a 200gr SWC. Shooting slow fire cadence @ 50' it cut 6 of 7 shots in less than 3/4" with a called flier in the 9 ring about 1" away from the center of the group.

I normally shoot hand built Bullseye wad guns, it takes a lot to impress me. I was. My Colt Compact 1911 is going down the road and a Kimber UCII is going to replace it.

FWIW

 

[Victor1Echo]

The first time I fired a Glock handgun (G19) I nailed a soda can in Uncle's backyard from 15-20 yards, with 1-2 shots, u need more practice time

The Glock 21 has a much larger grip than a 19. It is not the Glock, it is my hand. I went and fired a few rounds, and I can improve my accuracy. But I am convinced that it is too big for my hand. I want to find a kimber dealer.

 

[Hotspur]

I have a few different .45's but when I was in your shoes, I listened to several old time officers on a police forum. Picked up a S&W 457. Absolutely love it.

 

[Rimcrew]

If you don't mind a commander sized frame, the Dan Wesson CBOB is tough to beat. They are very hard to find, however.

The DW CCO is also a VERY nice CCW piece. It's lighter that the CBOB, and the shorter frame makes it easier for me to conceal.

It really doesn't matter which 1911 you decide on as your first one, because there will be many more...

 

[ccw007]

One of my most accurate 45's was a Glock 30. I put a 3.5 connector in it and could shoot one hole shots all day long at 15 yards. It is the one gun I could kick myself for getting rig of. It was not the right gun for me to carry though because of the width of the gun. The Glock 21 would be a little big for CCW IMHO, but try putting a 3.5 connector in it and see if that does not help your accuracy.

I just got this one and it is the perfect carry gun for me.

 

[LancerMW]

you need way more practice w/ your glock imo. but if your going to sell/trade to get a 1911 id go with something from Springfield. or STI if you got cash to throw

 

[GojuBrian]

Well, a glock just doesn't compare to a 1911. Like everyone is saying get a lightweisht commander size 1911.

BTW, I can hit a 10yard target pretty easy with a glock, but the target falls over and the gun is all scratched up.

 

[Tom Fury]

+1 for S&W 457; have owned several; absolutely reliable, surprisingly accurate; cheap; wirth holding out for 457s (stainless)
cheers, TF

 

[Victor1Echo]

you need way more practice w/ your glock imo

Yes! I read up on some articles and watched some videos. I then went down in the snow and shot 50 rounds. I applied what I learned and vastly improved my aim. I do not know the right words to describe the trigger, but that was where my problem was. When I squeezed the trigger, I ended up slightly my aim down with out realizing it. I practiced dry firing, and realized this was what I was doing.
I also picked this Glock up about a year ago--one week before the man took office. I could only find two boxes of ammo that week, and I paid something like $40 for 50 rounds. SO I was reluctant to waste my ammo leaning how to shoot, however that has all changed. I reload now!
At any rate the Block 21 and I getting along much better, but I'm still going to get a 1911. Don't know about trading her in though. I think I am or turning into a collector.

 

[MTS840]

I went to the range yesterday with some friends. I brought my Glock 21, and my friend brought his Kimber. I have only fired my Glock, and my friends Kimber was awesome. Furthermore, I was way more accurate with it, than my Glock.

If the Glock doesn't fit you, get the platform that fits your hand the best.

Regardless of the platform however, the basic practice aspects are the same. Stance, drawing, presentation, muscle memory, sight alignment/sight picture and trigger control never change.

If police deparments can take raw recruits who have never fired a handgun before and get them qualified with their issued weapon, you can learn to be proficient with any handgun you choose.

Keep practicing until drawing and firing become second nature and the handgun becomes an extension of your hand.

Within normal self defense handgun ranges, you will find you are far more accurate than you think you can be.

 

[LeontheProfessional]

Glocks are plenty accurate but they just take more getting used to for some that others.
When I got my Glock 27 my buddy got a Springfield 1911. I was more accurate with his 1911 and he was more accurate with my Glock 27.

 

[memphisjim]

sounds like you need practice
have someone else shoot your glock see if they can manage any better
there could be something wrong with yours

 

[mljdeckard]

I THINK, all that has happened here is that you have learned the difference between a 1911 trigger and a Glock trigger.

All .45s I can think of are accurate enough for carry. The .45 is a pretty accurate round in and of itself. What you are really asking here is which one you can handle better. Plenty of people have learned to handle a Glock trigger just fine, it's a matter of practice.

Having said that, I dropped my Glock for a Kimber years ago and I haven't looked back. Maybe you have just found that you handle a 1911 better, and you might consider if it's the best choice for you.

 

[Ala Dan]

For me, I find the traditional DA/SA SIG P220A to be surperbly accurate,
right out of the box~!

 

[chopper180]

I had the same problem with my Glock 21, it was just physically too big for my hand. I could shoot it, but shot other guns better. If the Kimber fits your hand better, and you shoot better with it, get one.

 

[Victor1Echo]

I solved a big part of my problem by taking a dremel to the finger grooves--way better. Might even take the hump off. But for now, it feels much better in my paw.

 

[Nasty]

I have been active in competition for over 30 years, almost 20 of which I was a Small Arms Instructor in the USAF. I have had great luck with my Bersa UC 45 in stainless. At less than $400, they allow for a quality carry piece and tons of ammo for training.

 

[Fishbait]

My M&P .45 will place a round within a inch or less of where I want it. But that is me.

That target paper dont lie. Get a gun YOU can hit the bullseye with. There are many guns out there. One of them will be a perfect fit for you. Anyone who is accurate with the 1911 is a very effective shooter to me.

Good luck!

 

[P97]

Anyone is going to shoot a Pistol better that fits and points naturally for them. That means different people shoot different guns better. I would start with the one that fits and points best for me and then practice, practice, practice. With that being said, most of today's Autos are capable of decent groups with the right ammo and right people shooting them.

 

[Victor1Echo]

The 21 is large framed pistol, but I like it. Taking the finger grooves off made it much more comfortable. I also like how it aims. I practice on the draw, and where ever I point the gun, its pretty much right on when I look thru the sights. Just need more practice. I was hoping to buy something next month, but my windshield started to crack. There is always something diverting my money from my hobby.
A bersa, huh. I will check it out. I like the 400 part.