An Anti I Can Respect

[planetmobius]

I can only give this half respect. He is advocating respectable means to accomplish something not respectable.

 

[Birch Knoll]

Alan D. is also in favor of torture with a warrant signed by a judge.

To be fair, that's in the context of the ticking time bomb scenario.

 

[akodo]

Interesting that he's anti gun the way he blasted the State Attorney in the Zimmerman case here in Florida:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Zimmerman-Trayvon-Angela-Corey/2012/06/05/id/441305

He is being consistent expecting the law to be followed regardless of how he feels on the issue.

A lot of people here could learn from him. Too many people see a case as pro-gun or anti-gun and want it to win or loose simply based on that, then when the law plays out and the case comes out with a verdict that is based in law but is in opposition to what they FEEL they get angry.

We are a nation of laws and we must always follow those laws or repeal those laws not ignore them based on the issue at hand. He strongly believes that the state acted in violation of the law, even though he is anti guns for self defense.

 

[Deltaboy1984]

Dershowitz is a MOTHO, I respect Anti- only on a Freedom of Speech Grounds. But they are nutter than a fruitcake, until we get Mothers against Cars because Drunk Drivers kill more folks than I care for myself. Using his and most Anti's Logic we should ban Autos also.banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[bushmaster1313]

Dershowitz is a MOTHO, I respect Anti- only on a Freedom of Speech Grounds. But they are nutter than a fruitcake, until we get Mothers against Cars because Drunk Drivers kill more folks than I care for myself. Using his and most Anti's Logic we should ban Autos also.banghead:

I think a better analogy is Prohibition.

 

[Leanwolf]

Dershowitz, a rabid anti-gunner, is also by the very nature of wanting to disarm all honest citizens, extremely anti-self defense and would condemn all citizens to be at the mercy of criminals. Begging and pleading with your attacker, and weeping and wailing and wetting your pants is his idea of "self defense."

Dershowitz is either childishly naive, or just downright evil. Self defense is the most Natural and Unalienable Right we have. Dershowitz wants to destroy that Natural Right by taking away the means or best tool for a person to protect himself, herself, and/or family when attacked by a criminal.

Whether disengenuously evil or just childishly naive, Dersowitz is a menace to honest citizens and conversely a great friend of vicious criminals.

I have zero respect for him and find him a despicable person.

L.W.

 

[rswartsell]

It is not necessary to demonize people who disagree with our viewpoint. What is necessary are arguments that convince people not born with a .44 in hand, 30.06 on the wall and a collection of skins on the smokehouse. Dershowitz is as good an example as any, please be very specific about what would convince a rational human being that Alan Dershowitz is Evil, wants you begging and pleading, etc. etc.

Yes, I am aware of the stand that we have an inalienable right. It's just that your hyperbole doesn't make you seem reasonable. Justify calmly and rationaly that he is evil, or put it away. You don't shoot your guns as indiscriminantely I hope. Excercise some rhetoric control.

 

[Leanwolf]

RSWARTSELL - "It is not necessary to demonize people who disagree with our viewpoint. What is necessary are arguments that convince poeple not born with a .44 in hand, 30.06 on the wall and a collection of skins on the smokehouse. Dershowitz is as good an example as any, please be very specific about what would convince a rational human being that Alan Dershowitz is Evil, wants you begging and pleading, etc. etc.

Yes, I am aware of the stand that we have an inalienable right. It's just that your hyperbole doesn't make you seem reasonable. Justify calmly and rationaly that he is evil, or put it away. You don't shoot your guns as indiscriminantely I hope. Excercise some rhetoric control.

RSW - "... please be very specific about what would convince a rational human being that Alan Dershowitz is Evil, ... "

You might try reading my post again and show me where I said he was "evil." I said he was either "childishly naive, or evil." You seemed not to have noticed the possibility he is merely "childishly naive."

RSW - " ...please be very specific about what would convince a rational human being that Alan Dershowitz is Evil, wants you begging and pleading, etc. etc."

Again, you very conveniently (deliberately??) left out my statement of "childishly naive, or ..."

I have watched Dershowitz on various teeeveee discussion shows being interviewed about the "firearms issue" more than a few times over many years. When a moderator or interviewer has asked that very question, "Well if guns are banned as you want, how can a person protect himself when attacked by a criminal?"

Dershowitz has always answered with rare deviation, "You can call 911, or just do whatever the attacker wants and you'll probably be okay."

Otherwise, in the real world, given you are then unable to protect yourself, whatever a criminal wants to do to you or your family, you can in self defense, beg, plead, weep and wail, and perhaps he'll not hurt you... or maybe not hurt you too much. Maybe he won't even kill you if you beg and plead hard enough. No matter, the criminal calls all the shots (pun intended), not you, the honest citizen.

It is not a matter of my owning firearms and having mounted game heads on the wall therefore thinking Dershowitz should know what I know about same. Trying to convince Dershowitz of why he should change his mind is utterly futile. His mind is hard wired from long ago to believe that the greater good for the country is for guns to be banned, no matter the horrible damage it would bring down on the heads of millions of people who would use them to protect themselves and family. There is no rational nor reasonable argument whatsoever, that will change his mind. On the subject of firearms, it is one tracked.

RSW - "Yes, I am aware of the stand that we have an inalienable right. "

Really?? If you believe that an individual has a Natural or Unalienable Right to defend himself ( or herself, et al.) against attacking criminals, then don't you believe that a person who actively seeks to take away your ability to protect yourself and family members either childishly naive, or evil?

I submit that it is logical to believe when a person who advocates the destruction of a person's Natural Right to protect himself, etc., and must not resist vicious criminals with appropriate means thereby causing the death or injury of an innocent person, he is either childishly naive ... or evil. Note that "or" in the sentence. One or the other; take your pick.

RSW - " You don't shoot your guns as indiscriminantely I hope. Excercise [sic] some rhetoric control."

That little assinine dig is too condescending to bother to waste time rebutting it.

L.W.

 

[Romeo 33 Delta]

RSW ... anyone wanting to take away my rights is EVIL. You don't have to agree, but it that's your position on the matter, you're just wrong.

 

[Frank Ettin]

enough bickering