Another gun range suicide

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If the government and many people didn't think they have the right to control other peoples lives, there would be available the means for people to end their lives in a quiet, peaceful, painless way.

We give our animals and even the worst inhuman killers a peacful death but force people into terrible ways to end their lives.:fire:

The chances are this guy we're talking about would have much rather taken a pill and "fell asleep" watching TV, than shooting himself in public.
 
Most people will never know what is going through the head of one who wishes to end it all. Even after talking someone down it is hard to comprehend. I caught a friend with pills once, and also talked a female prisoner down who was seeing little devils in her cell. Both were tough to talk out of it, but both are alive today. Selfish act? In most cases, yes. It is. But some people have to deal with more demons than we will ever know exist.

I do not judge someone for taking their life as it is not my place, but to do so in such a setting is uncalled for. I wish the range owner and the family of the deceased the best.
 
I was just in Shooter's Choice last Friday when they had a huge S&W sale. Walked out with a 642 and an M&P-15 - everything was being sold at cost. The guys up there can be asses, but nobody deserves to have to deal with this sort of thing. The same range had an employee kill himself several years ago with a Desert Eagle, but that one was an accident.
 
Man, that's not cool to be cracking jokes about this guy. Think about how his family felt. Or how you would feel if it was your family. The guy and his familt deserve a little respect. It may have not been an honorable thing to do, but no one knows why he did and why he chose a range to do it. Could have been messed up on drugs or anything.
 
gun range suicides

I've been seeing alot about gun range suicides these days. I've been involved with death personally and by way of career for many years. I've not been able to peg this suicide trait people have. I've had a few thoughts.

I don't know if it's Biological or Mental or a strange combo of both. I think, in the end, suicide is a kind of tunnel vision of the mind. The choice is not so much selfish as blind. Options are minimised for the suicide one.

The consequences of the aftermath are not well thought out just like many endeavours people undertake. Ever get surprised how you missed a detail fixing something? Ever think when someone makes a mistake you think you would not have? Ie: 'what a dumb a**, should have known...'

Do I feel pity for them over their suicide? Oh yes, quite a bit, what a waste of life. If they would have just fugue, why end it.

Negativity directed toward this gun range suicide victim? No one involved with a suicide would be so hard after feeling the pain and loss. I do feel a little miffed that the 2A will be soiled by this poor use of arms though. Brady Anti Juice, however wrong it is.

When I hear any 'joke like' or dismissive comments, I know the gravity of the act has been missed or suicide never came to that persons life.

Empathy and compassion for them and their bereaved? Definately, it's human. It separates us from every other creature.

The big thing that's missed seems to be the personal responsibility for ones self. Rarely do I hear about the failure to respect the self. The fact that a suicide is often the end of a rocky road that was full of pain seems to be secondary to the method of suicide.

Why is it that some people are portrayed as somehow being influenced by the firearm to end their life? Like the shooting somehow convinced the range guest it was somehow acceptable to do. Whats up with that? Never have I ever heard the same about a rope in a hanging suicide, or the stolen car in an MVA suicide.

Just some random thoughts.
Best,
 
Was his grouping really that bad?:D :D :D







I'm sorry to all the bleading hearts in the world but there is no excuse for commiting suicide.
 
might help

if it wasn't illegal. ain't it a hoot that suicide isn't but abortion is?
if i was terminal i would do it once quality of like got too low. known folks that did it to spare families financial hardship.
 
aint it a hoot

casandra.
I'm thinking you may have those backwards i believe suicide is illeagal and abortion is not suicide is considered a homicide, that is investigated buy law enforcement. Where as abortion is the cold hearted MURDER!!. of an innocent child that has no say or choice,about it's own DEATH.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
 
"Was his grouping really that bad?
I'm sorry to all the bleading hearts in the world but there is no excuse for commiting suicide."

Target Shooter, in keeping within THR all I'll say is I hope in your little secure world that you don't find out how wrong you are.:rolleyes:
 
Count your blessings.
I wish my Wife were here to pick fights with me.
I was broke for many years and unemployed to,

and even though I didn't realize it at the time that was some of the best times of my life.

Hang in there.
 
A 12 yr old boy who expressed his desire to escort a fellow 7th grader to a shool dance and then was rebuffed by the other party.
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A 30 yr old guy who was fraught with family trouble, joblessness, and, other problems.
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What sort of a weak, pathetic society have we become, where suicide is even CONSIDERED as an option by young, healthy people, as an answer to life's setbacks?

(Debilitating, painful, permanent illness, etc., I can see, but THIS stuff?)
 
Any chance it could have been an accident? Someone doing something stupid or such? Haven't seen a report on it so I am speculating.
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That would be my luck, I'm at the gun range shooting alone (Sometime I shoot with my friends, but sometimes I like to sneak out and shoot alone) and have a jam or something and thru some momentary act of stupidity the barrel is ponted toward my head and the gun goes off. Everyone at the range will think I'm a bastard for commiting suicide, my wife and kid will not get any life insurance, etc.

My friend's family was destroyed by suicide. When he was a teenager, his father decided to blow his brains out in his living room. He was the first person to find his dad, and it really changed him. His father didn't leave a note, and most of his family blamed his mother and started rumors that she was cheating, or was putting the family in debt. His family is now spread out across the US and no one talks to one another. It is a shame.

I never seen the need to commit suicide. You can have some severe tragedy happen to you one day, or you can be going thru some deep depression, and a few weeks later you could be having the happiest day of your life. Suicide is just giving up on life, and its possibilities.
 
What sort of a weak, pathetic society have we become, where suicide is even CONSIDERED as an option by young, healthy people, as an answer to life's setbacks?
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You say this like it's a modern problem that never existed before. It isn't.
 
You say this like it's a modern problem that never existed before. It isn't.
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It certainly has existed before. It correlates with a certain attitude that people have towards life, I think.
 
i have seen these posts on many forums. and it always kind of bugs me when ppl talk down about ppl who have taken there lives. its sad and tragic, i think the key to understanding it is the simple concept that not everyone thinks alike. its not black and white. just like you can have sociopaths or psychopaths who can kill without remorse like a "normal" person does you can have ppl who cant cope with life and stress like the majority of ppl can.
 
Yeah, this happened a few times at our local place a few years ago. Since then if you want to shoot a rental gun you either need to show a CCW or have a buddy with you.
 
The jokes are in bad form but keep this in mind. Some people crack jokes to smile and laugh in the face of extreme tragedy and horror. That just happens to be the way some people deal with such things. It may seem a bit twisted but it is effective. That's the way I am. It may get under some people's skin but to each his own. personally I think it is a far better way of coping than going out and getting blind drunk or stoned.

I've seen and experienced some bad things. Suicide has touched me many times. When I was in college a good friend's father shot himself in the heart with a snub nosed .38. My friend found him and he was never the same. I fully understand the after effects.

I was out at that store one week before during the big sale buying a new toy myself. I was shooting that new toy this past Saturday when I found out about this incident. It is a shame.
 
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