Another Pawn Shop "deal"

[oneshooter]

Found a Ruger 10-22 at a pawn shop today. It has a SS bull barrel with Ruger markings, a thumb hole laminated stock (looks like a Boyds) and a Simmons SS 8X scope. They want $400, will offer less and take my chances.
The main question I have is about the barrel, I can not find a listing of this barrel on Rugers website. The barrel is clearly marked on a machined flat on the top of it. Any answers? Worth the money?
Thanks in advance.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

 

[Jackal]

I'd offer $300 if its used. After all, it is a pawn shop and you know they probably only paid about $50 for it.

 

[oneshooter]

Jackel, So you believe it to be a Ruger barrel and stock?

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

 

[rbernie]

Was this it?

If so, that's a limited-run US Shooting Team commemorative...

 

[oneshooter]

No, it looked like this one, with a bull barrel.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

 

[AnthonyRSS]

Did the barrel have that 'hammer-forged' look to it, i.e. spiral flats all the way down?

Probably the Ruger target version. I think we have some right now for $399 new, but don't quote me.

Anthony

 

[oneshooter]

No it was round, smooth finish with no spiral flats. The only flats on it was one on top with the Ruger name, and another on the bottom with the "warning". Satin finished, approx. 1" across (.920?)

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

 

[rbernie]

I did a quick search of the Ruger site, and came up with a couple of bull barrel versions in their current lineup. They all appeared to have spiral flutes, but I wouldn't be surprised if the barels were smooth at some point in their production run.

Bottom line is that, if you saw the Ruger billboard, it's gotta be a factory barrel. Right now, a similar rifle in a non-thumbhole tock sells new for $399 and the stock you pictured (actually a Fajen) sells for about $130.

All in all, if you like the rifle and can get it out the door for $400, it's probably not a bad deal.

 

[pete f]

They have a couple at the Gander near here for 425 new in the box with papers that have a blander version of that technicolor stock with a hammer forged barrel. I would not pay more than 250 for the gun at a pawn shop, the scope is a throw away.

 

[TimboKhan]

Four bills is not a horrible price, but it is pretty far from being a good deal. I am with whomever said to offer $300, and at a max I would pay $350. Related to this topic, my buddy bought one of these rifles used from a local gun shop (Rocky Mountain Shooters Supply, formerly known as "Hamblins"), for $300, and it has been a tack driver. I have seen them at gun shows for as much as $600, but that is a ridiculous price to pay, since you can build your own for much less than that. Also, if it is actually a factory Ruger, it most definitly has the hammer-forged barrel. It is possible that it is some custom job that someone rigged up that looks like a factory rifle, but if it's a real factory gun, the barrel is hammer-forged, period.

 

[nitesite]

The only 1" target barrels I have seen from Ruger had a spiral exterior. I might be missing something but when did Ruger start building round 1" barrels?

 

[oneshooter]

Went back today and they had gone down from $529 to $430! Asked for the low ball and that was it! He told me he would sell it at that price. I told him "Yea, but not to me!"

Oh well I'll keep looking.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas

 

[XavierBreath]

Pawn shop 10/22- $100
Whistle Pig barrel- $159
Silhouette Stock- $129

Total= $388

Even going cheap, you cannot build one for much less. Sure, you can sell the old barrel and stock on ebay and garner $10-15, but that is small potatoes. Add in the little incidentals like scope rings and base, and it adds up quick. Trying to sell a $400 .22 rifle is tough though.

 

[rockstar.esq]

Having worked at a pawn shop I can testify that gun loans were more generous than any other item because the owners were more likely to come back for their guns. Also guns pretty much sell themselves which represents a lower risk for the shop. What I'm getting at is that our shop NEVER paid as little as $50.00 for a 10-22 in good working order let alone one with a bull barrel and laminated thumbhole stock. Given the retail price of say $450.00 for that model, the shop would likely offer something like $200-$250 for it. The shop would then try to make a 30% margin on it so the price quoted above is high but not outright stupid. Consider also that some of the initial pricing is done with haggling in mind. I would have to say that 95% of the guns I sold were through haggling that lasting a minimum of 30-45 minutes. It was not uncommon for a regular to come in and haggle about a gun for an hour, leave then return and haggle for another hour to get something like a 6% cut in the price which often resulted in a sale. Savy shooters will take note of the date specifically identifying if the month is coming to an end. Quotas based on margin are the rule of the day at the end of the month. The first of the month often brought the lacksidasical easy going management that authorizes large discounts to patient customers. Oneshooter is handling it well by keeping an eye on it and staying polite.

 

[Outlaws]

Ruger 10/22's have more after market parts than anything except maybe the AR15 and 1911.

It was probably an after market barrel.

 

[oneshooter]

Outlaws, The barrel was marked "Ruger Hammer Forged" on the top and had all of the legal stuff on the bottom. I believe that it is a Ruger barrel.

Oneshooter
Livin in Texas