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Anti gun crusader arrested for owning gun

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by PinnedAndRecessed, Mar 10, 2006.

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  1. chuckt1974

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    I dont remember where I heard it, but this quote has stuck with me.
    "There is no such thing as someone who doesnt believe in guns. As soon as things go wrong they pick up the phone and call the people with guns."
     
  2. Sheldon J

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    Of course that is how they make it safe for fellow gang bangers.
     
  3. tanksoldier

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    Extremely interesting, since convicted felons can't vote.


    <<Is is merely a coincidence that over 90% of convicted felons vote for representatives of the Democratic (sic) party?>>
     
  4. only1asterisk

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    Felons can't vote like they can't own guns, nothing stops them from doing either.

    David
     
  5. c_yeager

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    I dont actually see an anti-gun agenda with this organization. Yeah, its names "no guns" but that doesnt necessarily make it anti RKBA. It seems to be anti-violence oriented, and the name of the organization reflects that. If someone can show an actual gun-control agenda here then thats different, but being against gang members with guns is not analogous to being anti-everybody with guns.
     
  6. alpineRKBA

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    What about Feinstein issuing herself a San Francisco permit for a .38 Special?
    Guns for them but not for us!
     
  7. Standing Wolf

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    Felons are legally able to vote in many states, and vote illegally in many others.
     
  8. Zoogster

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    If I was a felon I would be anti other people legaly owning firearms too, doesn't mean I wouldn't keep a means to defend myself, legal or not, especialy if prior choices in life had left me with as many violent enemies as this guy.

    Every person arrested for a felony or a domestic violence charge in this country, both of which are lifetime gun ownership bans, is an instant Anti. Some states expand that to include any and all drug offense, even an elderly woman with a misdemeanor marijuana charge from however far back, cant let that hippy smoking pot and protesting vietnam in the 60's have a gun for safety now. Others for any misdemeanor assault or battery charge, like CA, which means if for any reason you punch a guy in CA outside self defense (battery), even if they are talking dirty to your wife/daughter in front of you, and challenging you, or threaten or imply you will do so (assault). Instant 10 year ban. As more and more things are felonies under the law, and more and more non felonies also ban ownership, support for RKBA will diminish, even if privately those prohibited arm themselves regardless.

    If you could not legaly own a gun, and by doing so you knew you were risking charges, would you want others to be able to be armed without the same risk hanging over thier head? Probably not. So you would be an anti.

    Every new person prohibited from legal arms is anti other people having arms. Before 1968 even felons could own firearms at the federal level after serving all thier time. I imagine a big reason for the change was all the civil disobedience and protesting during the time. Perhaps even connected with the Black Panthers like many other gun laws. Once someone was considered a danger to the state they had to be legaly disarmed. While I do not condone any of the actions of criminals, that is quite contrary to the belief of the founding fathers that it was the duty of the citizens to rise against tyranny and overthrow it, when anyone judged an enemy of the tyrant would be charged accordingly and labeled ineligable to own firearms. The founding fathers would have never agreed that a citizen once legaly a free man could not have the means to resist oppression, or defend themselves or thier family.

    Any one of us at any time could be deemed a felon for something mundane, perhaps a firearm oversight in a strict state, like having 11 rounds in a magazine in CA, and the majority would turn against them and denounce them as subhuman and support lifelong bans on rights simply for self preservation of our own RKBA. So that we can reply when an anti speaks against them that " well those firearms used in crimes were obtained or possessed illegaly, don't take away our rights! We are honest law abiding citizens". They don't care, and the rest of us will have lost one more supporter, and gained one more anti.
     
  9. General Geoff

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    I dunno, I'm not so sure about that.

    If (heaven forbid) I was at some point convicted of a felony, and served my time, I don't see how my own predicament of being barred from owning firearms would change my philisophical view that gun ownership should be an inalienable right. In fact, once I did my time, I'd be busy talking to a lawyer, trying to get my conviction expunged or pardoned, so I can hop back in the saddle.
     
  10. Zoogster

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    Perhaps many here will become felons when our new president Obama/Hilary combined with our curent anti RKBA congress outlaws many firearms, and is sure to include an expanded version of the "Assault Weapons" ban, likely not making the same mistakes as last time which they are so frequently reminded about, like outlawing some weapons and not others when they are functionaly the same. Perhaps they won't be so nice with thier pen strokes this time and create a grandfather clause.

    For the children, turn it in at a buyback within the next year or become a felon.
    Luckily I shouldn't have to worry, because I am in CA and we can't have "assault weapons".
    Then again that may only be a few years away from other bans...or perhaps the definition of Assault Weapon will be open ended and slowly expand like it does in CA.
     
  11. 10 Ring Tao

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    zoogster said, in part:

    I was going to post something (again) on the incremental approach to reducing the number of eligible gun owners by the "nibbling" technique of maiking evrything a felony.

    But zoogster said it so well.

    Don't spit on the sidewalk. It may be a felony someday.

    I'm not sure I agree with the idea that people barred from posession authomatically become "anti," although I'm sure it occurs.

    Were I barred from posession, I might think the other way --that the more eligible people running around armed there are, the safer society in general, as well as myself, would be.

    I was highly amused, when the Colorado CCW bill was being considered, to hear Tom Mauser (a strong anti here in CO) remark that he would feel "uncomfortable" if he found he was sitting next to a person who was carrying under the provisions of the CCW law.

    Idiot!

    Even if I were not eligible to possess a firearm, I would in fact feel safer in that situation.

    One of the armed guards I know at one of the 24-hr supermarkets remarked to me when I got my CCW, "It's nice to know there's another good guy with a gun in the store." (I know him from wayback when.)
     
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