Any advantage of an extended choke tube over a flush-fit?

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Aside from the ease of screwing/unscrewing them in, is there any functional advantage to an extended choke tube with the knurling on the end (like the Trulock chokes, for example), does the shot pattern hold together more consistently, as the wad/shot is passing through a longer constriction zone, or is it just a cosmetics/ease of changing choke tubes thing?
 
Cosmetic differences, and some extended chokes have porting in the choke which they claim is a benefit.

I really see the extended chokes as being those super-full turkey killers, also the Mossberg Improved Cylinder - Hole Saw Edition choke is completely cosmetic.
 
If you believe the advertising, the extended tubes give the shot column more distance to compress to the choke amount. This supposedly leads to less deformed pellets and a more consistent shot pattern. Does it really help? The pros seem to use them alot. I use them because they are easier to change or tighten and I like the looks.
 
They don't require a tool to change. They protect the muzzle of the gun. It's is all I use.

For hunting, skeet or trap the flush fit are ok, since most folks don't change that much. For sporting clays, extended are much faster to change, and changes occur quite often.

The folks that sell the extended chokes will tell you that they work better because they have a longer parallel section, yada, yada, yada. I don't buy it.

For me, it is strictly the convenience factor and the fact that they do protect the muzzle from dings.
 
They don't require a tool to change. They protect the muzzle of the gun. It's is all I use.

I'll add, it easily lets you see what you have in there without having to look down the barrel and try to count those little notches. Ported chokes are a waste of money as the porting does nothing except get filled with gunk (like the ported barrels)
 
Because the threaded portion of an extended choke tube is cylinder bored and the actual choking is in front of the muzzle, when used with steel shot loads they prevent the shot from peening the tube threads into the muzzle threads.
 
I use them because they are easier to change or tighten and I like the looks.

Just the conveniece for me. The barrel gets a lot hotter shooting sucessive rounds of trap. The extension gives an excellent way to make sure the choke is tight between rounds without carrying a wrench. That's enough reason for me.
 
I use both types. One thing I've noticed is that the extended chokes seem to loosen more readily than the flush types, but it may be because fingers don't have the leverage of a wrench.
 
Extended tubes are longer and a gentler taper with a longer parallel section just before the muzzle is generally considered to give denser patterns with more pellets where it counts.

The chokes on old Superposeds were 5 inches long. They gave great patterns with a bit less constriction than others needed.

I do think we tend to rely too much on a pet tube sometimes. Find the center of the target with the center of the pattern and the target will break regardless of the markings on the tube.

Chokes give us inches. Misses are usually in feet.
 
The folks that sell the extended chokes will tell you that they work better because they have a longer parallel section, yada, yada, yada. I don't buy it.

Ok, probably an overstatement. I'm sure that there are differences that are actually measurable, but as Dave says, "chokes give us inches. Misses are usually in feet." What I should have said was that in practical application, i.e. shooting at birds or clays, I can't detect a difference.

There is always the latest greatest esoteric thing made from Unicorn horn and the metal from a comet that someone is trying to sell. The latest is the Muller. I have no doubt that it is a fine product, but will it seriously make a significant difference in your performance? That's the part I don't buy.

For me, when I miss, it ain't the choke, believe me. Maybe for someone like say Scott Robertson it might make a difference, but I doubt it. I suspect the difference for those guys is who is willing to ante up the most money for their endorsement.

Last Sunday, I shot a 71 on the sporting clay course. Would a set of Mullers given me a 72? I seriously doubt it.
 
Just back from the range with some hard data on the difference between a standard flush-mount Mod and a Trulock Mod choke on my H&R TDC 20 Gauge

From the patterning board at approx. 16 yards (Rio Top Target #9 7/8 Oz shells used);
I used one of those square rifle scope sight-in 100 yard targets, the one with the four orange wedges in the center and the groups of four 1" squares on the corners, as my aiming point, aiming for the center of the target on each shot.

the flush choke (not sure what brand, think it's a Mossberg AccuChoke, I got it used) throws a very wide, open pattern with a couple good sized voids in the pattern, and the pattern took up the entire target paper and more, extending off the target paper, no real focus point of the pattern

the Trulock Mod extended choke tube threw a much denser pattern, no voids, and the entire pattern fit inside the target paper, there was a clear center point to the pattern where the shot cloud was densest

On the trap range;
last week, I shot with the flush Mod tube, when I hit the EOF's, they tended to disintegrate in a "chippy" manner, large fragments splaying out in all directions, when I hit an EOF with the Trulock Mod, it actually dissapeared in a puff of clay smoke, almost no fragmentation, it just vanished

The flush choke gave me a greater margin of error, I could be slightly "off" the EOF and still break it, with the Trulock, I had to concentrate more on keeping the muzzle on target, it feels like it throws a pattern closer to a Full choke

After a couple games of trap, I went back to the pattern board to see how the Trulock Mod and Full chokes patterned Federal #3 Buck (20 pellet Maximum 2 3/4" shells), I also wanted to see what the recoil felt like shooting full power shells in the TDC 20 Gauge, I've heard that in general, the H&R Topper line is okay with light trap/skeet/clays shells, but recoil gets downright nasty with Buck and slugs...

With the Mod TL choke in place, the TDC throws a 8" or so pattern of #3 Buck at approx. 16 yards, and recoil is negligible, it was easily tolerable, and actually pleasant to shoot, thanks to my homemade recoil absorber in the stock, the actual pattern wasn't all that good, most of the pellets struck high and left, with a few striking low right, there was a definite "hole" in the lower left of the pattern, this combination would *NOT* be acceptable for hunting or HD, due to the hole in the pattern

with the Full choke in, at 16 yards, the TDC throws a 4-5" pattern, an absolutely gorgeous pattern at that, balanced, round, and predictable, this combination *would* be acceptable for hunting/HD...

The more I think about it, the more I just plain like the patterns that the Full Trulock choke tube throws, when I compare patterning board targets of the #9 shells, the Full choke tube stays generally within the four orange wedge "crosshair" sighting area on the target, whereas the Mod tube throws a pattern that basically fills the entire paper target, rough ballpark figure, I'd say the Full is about 50% tighter than the Mod, I like the density and accuracy of the Full, it's just, shall we say, a bit more "challenging" using it on the 16 yard line at the trap range, the Mod gives that extra margin of error

For my purposes, the extended Trulock choke tubes seem to throw a tighter pattern across the board, the Mod Trulock feels closer to a Full to me when compared against the ?Mossberg? Mod flush-fit, the Mossberg tube seems to throw a looser, less defined pattern, shooting at the EOF with that choke tube installed gives me a higher hit percentage due to the looser pattern, "aiming" is less critical than with the Trulock installed, with the Trulock, I have to be more on target or it will show me clear deficiencies in my shooting form

Trap would be "easier" with the Mossberg Mod tube in, but less precise, I prefer the challenge of using the Trulock tubes, I may have less margin of error, but the hits are more dramatic when I dust an EOF with those tubes

So, to sum up, in *my* case, I've found that extended choke tubes are more "precise" and throw tighter patterns than the equivalent flush-fits

Hmm, wonder how my gun would pattern with a Trulock Improved Cylinder at 16 yards, it'd probably throw a pattern closer to that of the Modified Mossberg tube.....
 
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