Any experience with See All Open Sights?

[Kynoch]

I'm curious if anyone here has any first-hand experience with See All Open Sights? I'm not sure how it compares to a red dot, but the fact this sight should qualify for use in limited/non optic/non electronic categories of different shooting competition makes it very interesting to me.

See All Open Sight

 

[R.W.Dale]

This is news to me but after a tiny bit of research I am sold

 

[X-Rap]

Looks like that might square with the Colorado Muzzle loader regs. If so I''l be trying one out.

 

[Onward Allusion]

I have one on one of my 10/22's. It looks unique, cool and it does work. It let's you use "iron sights" without having to think about sight radius. It is also pretty bright in lit conditions. IMO, it is more accurate than red dots or irons.

Here are the downsides:

- It gathers light from above. In dim conditions, they are pretty useless. Even under a canopy it is a bit of a challenge to see the sight.

- They are expensive for what they are. I got mine for around $100. Too expensive for a little chunk of plastic.

- The mounting sucks. It may look like it mounts using traditional rail design, but rather than having a crossbar and clamps to lock the sight in place, it has set screws! Set screws???! This means it ain't going to work well on high powered rifles or handguns. Without a crossbar to lock the sight in place, it's gonna lose zero.

- Not for quick target acquisition. The way it is designed, it is takes more time than a red dot and irons to acquire a target.

Personally, I would not have purchased this if I knew what the drawbacks were. I would stick to glass or irons.

 

[Kynoch]

I have one on one of my 10/22's. It looks unique, cool and it does work. It let's you use "iron sights" without having to think about sight radius. It is also pretty bright in lit conditions. IMO, it is more accurate than red dots or irons.

Here are the downsides:

- It gathers light from above. In dim conditions, they are pretty useless. Even under a canopy it is a bit of a challenge to see the sight.

- They are expensive for what they are. I got mine for around $100. Too expensive for a little chunk of plastic.

- The mounting sucks. It may look like it mounts using traditional rail design, but rather than having a crossbar and clamps to lock the sight in place, it has set screws! Set screws???! This means it ain't going to work well on high powered rifles or handguns. Without a crossbar to lock the sight in place, it's gonna lose zero.

- Not for quick target acquisition. The way it is designed, it is takes more time than a red dot and irons to acquire a target.

Personally, I would not have purchased this if I knew what the drawbacks were. I would stick to glass or irons.

Thanks very much for the first hand feedback. It may well be worth it to wait and see if some of the issues are resolved.

I can't really compare it to a red dot, because dots are in a different division of competition (open vs. limited.) If it's inferior to iron sights (ltd. vs. ltd.) then that's a fair comparison. Thanks again.

 

[Onward Allusion]

Here are a couple of dozen reviews on Amazon. I should have read 'em beforehand.

http://www.amazon.com/Sight-Reticle...qid=1416092871&sr=8-1&keywords=See+all+sights

 

[R.W.Dale]

I'd still like to try one but I may now hold out till the mkII or a good deal on a used one

 

[Walkalong]

Very interesting concept.

 

[B!ngoFuelUSN]

I have one on one of my 10/22's. It looks unique, cool and it does work. It let's you use "iron sights" without having to think about sight radius. It is also pretty bright in lit conditions. IMO, it is more accurate than red dots or irons.

Here are the downsides:

- It gathers light from above. In dim conditions, they are pretty useless. Even under a canopy it is a bit of a challenge to see the sight.

- They are expensive for what they are. I got mine for around $100. Too expensive for a little chunk of plastic.

- The mounting sucks. It may look like it mounts using traditional rail design, but rather than having a crossbar and clamps to lock the sight in place, it has set screws! Set screws???! This means it ain't going to work well on high powered rifles or handguns. Without a crossbar to lock the sight in place, it's gonna lose zero.

- Not for quick target acquisition. The way it is designed, it is takes more time than a red dot and irons to acquire a target.

Personally, I would not have purchased this if I knew what the drawbacks were. I would stick to glass or irons.

I've been tempted as well. It seems like a very innovative approach - which is sort of rare in the firearms industry. But I really appreciate your review and analysis of the device. Sure will make me think twice (or more) before plunking down some cash. Even just for an experiment. As an aside, do you think these would be more viable on a handgun versus a rifle?
B

 

[Kynoch]

I've been tempted as well. It seems like a very innovative approach - which is sort of rare in the firearms industry. But I really appreciate your review and analysis of the device. Sure will make me think twice (or more) before plunking down some cash. Even just for an experiment. As an aside, do you think these would be more viable on a handgun versus a rifle?
B

Most reviewers seem to prefer it on long guns versus handguns as the reticule becomes overly large when the sight is held well away from one's eyes.

 

[pintler]

I bought one. It's a cool idea. Mine came with a crooked reticle, but in fairness to the company, I didn't ask to have it fixed.

As others have said, they rely on ambient light, and so don't work at all in the dark. And they don't work with a flashlight either. Iron sights work OK with a flashlight, because the sights are silhouetted against the illuminated target. But these sights require illumination from above, so they don't work with the flashlight illuminating the target.

For the money, I'd get a TRS-25 or similar red dot.

 

[Kynoch]

I've been tempted as well. It seems like a very innovative approach - which is sort of rare in the firearms industry. But I really appreciate your review and analysis of the device. Sure will make me think twice (or more) before plunking down some cash. Even just for an experiment. As an aside, do you think these would be more viable on a handgun versus a rifle?
B

So very true. I read a posting elsewhere where someone adds some Glow-On Super Phosphorescent tape which turns it into a super low-light sight as well.

I suspect this concept will be further developed and refined.

 

[Kynoch]

NSSF Rimfire Challenge allows this sight for their Limited Class (non optics/electronics) while Steel Challenge does not. Odd...