any ideas from you seasoned vet predator hunters would be greatly appreciated

[harryheadshot]

I'm hunting the middle of two fields with a fence and thin tree line seperating the pastures, and I can pull the yotes across the first field but no matter what, I can't coax them onto my side of the tree line and they'll only respond at night and I can't see into the other field with my light. I've tried baiting them, mouth blown calls, an E-caller, and I still can't get 'em into the open for a shot. The game warden hunts the other property so I can't get permission to simply cross the fence, I thought about a ladder stand overlooking both fields but there are no trees tall enough. Any ideas from some of you guys would be great, thankyou for allowing me to be part of your forum.

 

[H&Hhunter]

Have you tried a decoy or a wobbler. Sounds to me like you've got some educated yotes.

 

[Flintknapper]

Where are you "setting up"?

If you have positioned yourself on (or near the fence line) in order to see into both fields (but can't shoot onto the neighboring property, then that is a problem.

Some Yodel Dogs will completely close the distance to the call/caller, but most will "hang up" 25-75 yds out. So...unless you are set up... a substantial distance into your field, I wouldn't expect a Coyote to cross the fence line unless he is going to circle downwind.

Tell us what your set-up is...then maybe we can offer suggestions.

 

[courtgreene]

Welcome... I am about to get into predator hunting so I thank you for your question and look forward to learning from these and forthcoming replies.

 

[H&Hhunter]

And here is another thing to consider. Most coyotes will circle down wind. So if you can set yourself up so that the yote will have to go on your property to be straight down wind of your position.

What kind of call are using and are you using a coaxer to get them in that last little bit?

If a coyote is coming in strong and then pulls up and stops looks around and heads away the game is up and no manner of calling or coaxing is going to get him to come back. When they pull up with that HuuuuhHH look on their face you either need to shoot or get off the pot.

 

[harryheadshot]

much thanx

First off thankyou guys for the response, and in answer to your questions, I've actually tried to set up about half way across our pasture, so I'm only looking at about 50yards to the tree line. No I haven't tried a decoy, but that could possibly be a pretty good idea, when the 3/4 or full moon rolls around later this month. These Yotes are, I think educated, but the other night they barked and howled at me even when I came off my stand and was walking back to my truck, which was fully out of sight. It's almost as though they were making fun of me. I'm using a Johnny Stewart E-caller, as well as a couple of mouth blown calls, coaxer and a dog howler or two, that I've very successfully used on another property I'm hunting. Again thankyou guys for your help, and for the fellow just getting into predator hunting, I assure you man, it's a rush when your first dog or two comes full bore right at you, just be remember to breath before you shoot. I missed the chance at a double the first time I called any dogs in, and I'm still kickin myself in the but!

 

[harryheadshot]

hey courtgreene

what part of nc do you live, any where near ga, do you have many yotes up that way?

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

Sounds to me you may have already worn that area out harry. yotes are actually VERY VERY VERY smart. They get call educated faster than about any other animal on earth. Sounds to me like you have thrown everything but the kitchen sink at them and that in itself was a mistake. Leave them be for a while (about a month or so) and then go back after them. Use a "wiggler" of some sort for catching their attention (sight) and as Flint said, set up further away from where you can not shoot than where you currently do. No less than 75 yards if at all possible. And again, use the wind in your favor on your setup as well. They love to circle to the wind once they have pinpointed the sound and they almost ALWAYS do once they pick up motion of their prey. If you can find some, get some rabbit scent to spray on your "wiggler" as well. That will help if the wind shifts a bit.

 

[H&Hhunter]

These Yotes are, I think educated, but the other night they barked and howled at me even when I came off my stand and was walking back to my truck, which was fully out of sight. It's almost as though they were making fun of me.

That is exactly what they were doing. If yotes start to howl and bark at you during your calling set they are basically giving you the middle finger. Game over, no replay. I'd give these guys a break for a bit.

 

[Thorgrim]

Do you just want to shoot coyotes, or do you want the coyote by whatever means? If the latter, it sounds like trapping would be a better method unless there's some reason you can't do that. A trap never gets tired or sleepy and can see in the dark. If you choose that path, though, please spend some time learning before sprinkling legholds here and there, that's the path to grief and new enemies. Done right it's a ton of fun, but being successful at it isn't as easy as most folks think.

If you're interested, PM/email me and I'll dig for some resources for you.

 

[harryheadshot]

Thankyou guys for your input, and you both hit the nail on the head, I went into walmart last night and noticed that they have begun selling the exact E-caller I have, as well as a pretty good selection of other Johnny Stewart, calls, shooting sticks, etc.. So my guess is every redneck in the county, is playing the dying rabbit blues for these Yotes everywhere they go, day and night, so I'm gonna bath in 99% get my gillie suit out and slip into the neighbors field, lay out there until one of the damn things step on me, then start slinging lead at them. Just playing, yea I'll give 'em a break, and go back with a mouth call, slip in before dark and like you guys said set up down wind from my last stands. Anyway I'll be sure and let you fellers know when I put a couple of 'em to sleep, and thanx again for all the ideas.