REAPER4206969
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Without a mag disconnect the GEN 4 can not be sold in CA.
Where are you getting your information?
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Enachos
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To me the "hump" doesn't bother me whatsoever. And I agree that it feels even better on the subcompact models. I hate saying things like this because there are a lot of other great handguns out there like the xd and the M&P but to me the glock really is perfect for me. I'm actually apprehensive about buying anything else because Glock has treated me well.
Does anyone know if the recoil springs for the 4th gen. models will be interchangeable with the gen 3's?
Does anyone know if the recoil springs for the 4th gen. models will be interchangeable with the gen 3's?
REAPER4206969
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No...
LiveLife
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Look at some of Gen3 and Gen4 pictures side by side.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/12/25/glock-gen4-unveiled/
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Sapper771
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The guide rod on the gen4 is too wide to be used in the Gen 1-3 glocks.
We did take the slide off of a Gen 3 Glock 34 and put it on a gen4 Glock 17. It worked well. There is just a larger gap between the nose of the slide and the nose of the frame. The reverse will not work.
We did take the slide off of a Gen 3 Glock 34 and put it on a gen4 Glock 17. It worked well. There is just a larger gap between the nose of the slide and the nose of the frame. The reverse will not work.
Mods? On the perfect Glock
The best pistol for me is the Glock 19, for the shooting sports (IDPA mostly) and to carry.
My hands do not sweat, ever! Need a couple of strips of Skate board tape, that is Mod#1 For sport, extended slide release, Glock manufactured, Mod#2, the best sights made for pistols IMHO TruGlow, fiber optics, Mod#3 Butt plug, for more positive magazine change, gives a .5 of an inch more strike surface, that was the last Mod,#4. Always the factory trigger, 2K. And trim the wee bars off the trigger safety piece.
You need to strip the frame to do this, ask a Glock Armorer.
The best group of Mods; comprise the Gen4, they have listened, I think some one with real power is now at the helm, the things we (INTERNET commandos) have asked for, for years, has come to pass.
The new spring system, great, reduces felt recoil, the reversible, bigger, and better shaped Mag; release the feel of the grip, perfect.
Model 17 Gen4 first, then the Mod 19 Gen4, I will wait for that (Don't these people know I am not rich?)
The best pistol for me is the Glock 19, for the shooting sports (IDPA mostly) and to carry.
My hands do not sweat, ever! Need a couple of strips of Skate board tape, that is Mod#1 For sport, extended slide release, Glock manufactured, Mod#2, the best sights made for pistols IMHO TruGlow, fiber optics, Mod#3 Butt plug, for more positive magazine change, gives a .5 of an inch more strike surface, that was the last Mod,#4. Always the factory trigger, 2K. And trim the wee bars off the trigger safety piece.
You need to strip the frame to do this, ask a Glock Armorer.
The best group of Mods; comprise the Gen4, they have listened, I think some one with real power is now at the helm, the things we (INTERNET commandos) have asked for, for years, has come to pass.
The new spring system, great, reduces felt recoil, the reversible, bigger, and better shaped Mag; release the feel of the grip, perfect.
Model 17 Gen4 first, then the Mod 19 Gen4, I will wait for that (Don't these people know I am not rich?)
LiveLife
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FWIW, you can mod a Gen3 Glock to include dual spring setup using Glock parts or aftermarket. I guess you can even shave the grip hump too.
If you are happy with Gen2/Gen3 Glocks and they shoot well, then no need for Gen4 upgrade.
But, then again, I haven't shot a Gen4 yet.
If you are happy with Gen2/Gen3 Glocks and they shoot well, then no need for Gen4 upgrade.
But, then again, I haven't shot a Gen4 yet.
LiveLife
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For California, we may have to wait longer than everyone else ...
The range staff (the range is an authorized Glock dealer/service) said yesterday they haven't gotten any word when Gen4 Glocks will be stocked.
One thing for sure, especially with many Law Enforcement agencies/departments rotating out Gen3 Glocks to Gen4, there will be more Gen1/Gen2/Gen3 used Glocks showing up on the market.
The range staff (the range is an authorized Glock dealer/service) said yesterday they haven't gotten any word when Gen4 Glocks will be stocked.
One thing for sure, especially with many Law Enforcement agencies/departments rotating out Gen3 Glocks to Gen4, there will be more Gen1/Gen2/Gen3 used Glocks showing up on the market.
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Full Metal Jacket
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i'll be sticking with my 3rd gen g19, thanks. i bought my glock19 rtf2 about a month before the gen4's came out. i assumed they were something i wouldn't want. i was right of course:
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The Gen4 Glocks have stiffer captured multi-recoil spring set then Gen3 captured single spring set ...
I have not shot one yet, and probably won't be able to shoot one anytime soon (unless I take a quick trip to Las Vegas).
Maybe by the time they make it out to California, Glock may recall the new spring set?
I have not shot one yet, and probably won't be able to shoot one anytime soon (unless I take a quick trip to Las Vegas
).Maybe by the time they make it out to California, Glock may recall the new spring set?
Is that yours? What happened?i'll be sticking with my 3rd gen g19, thanks. i bought my glock19 rtf2 about a month before the gen4's came out. i assumed they were something i wouldn't want. i was right of course:
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^^^no my friend, that's not mine (i won't be buying one of the gen4 epic failures).
the g17 gen4 is having feeding and ejection probs. glock used the same recoil assembly in both the 40cal and 9mm 4thgens, and apparently it's too strong to work reliably with standard pressure 9mm ammo.
however, there seems to be another issue. these 2 different types of malfunctions point to something more than just a recoil assembly problems--there seems to be something inherently wrong with the design.
this is the thread on ar15.com where these pics came from: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=90264&page=3
glock will prob either discontinue it, or modify it. glock likes to use it's customers as new product testers....
the g17 gen4 is having feeding and ejection probs. glock used the same recoil assembly in both the 40cal and 9mm 4thgens, and apparently it's too strong to work reliably with standard pressure 9mm ammo.
however, there seems to be another issue. these 2 different types of malfunctions point to something more than just a recoil assembly problems--there seems to be something inherently wrong with the design.
this is the thread on ar15.com where these pics came from: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=90264&page=3
glock will prob either discontinue it, or modify it. glock likes to use it's customers as new product testers....
I wouldn't extend to call you gullible, but that picture you post to all with no context whatsoever to where we assume its your own... is funny to me.
A picture to document "a Glock Jamming"....is out to prove something obviously
I take the picture with a grain of salt. You can keep posting it to justify your Gen 3 purchase and show how the 4's are the biggest failure ever.
We will never know anything about these weapons until they are out in the market being used
Full Metal Jacket
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^^^what are you talking about, dude???
i did post those pictures with several sentences of context.
...and i don't need to justify my g19 gen3 purchase, i love that gun.
there are pics of gen4 failures all over glocktalk and ar15.com. take this info for what it's worth to you.
i have other reasons as well for not liking the gen4's. things i noticed when handling them at the local funshop.
i did post those pictures with several sentences of context.
...and i don't need to justify my g19 gen3 purchase, i love that gun.
there are pics of gen4 failures all over glocktalk and ar15.com. take this info for what it's worth to you.
i have other reasons as well for not liking the gen4's. things i noticed when handling them at the local funshop.
You can show me several sentences with your post #62 there buddy.
Yeah yeah yadda yadda... I can hardley find a single Generation 4 picture on the internet but the only one to be found is this ubiquitous picture of one jamming. Suddenly they are all crap or as you put it "something inherently wrong with the design"
Care to post any more of these pics of a different gen 4?
Open you eyes young one
I like em.. with the largest grip attachment.... actually makes it point better for me... Granted... I havent shot one, but fondling it, I am impressed overall which is saying a lot considering it is a Glock... I am typically not a fan.
Does anyone else think its funny the only picture you can find of an actual person handling a Generation 4 Glock is the famous jammed picture??
I just searched Google...
Honestly I would say take it with a grain of salt, or someone is out to prove something about Glock 4th gen reliability knowing the entire gun following population is eager to know about them and will probably eat up any feedback that comes there way. I had no idea that single picture has been posted so many times...
I just searched Google...
Honestly I would say take it with a grain of salt, or someone is out to prove something about Glock 4th gen reliability knowing the entire gun following population is eager to know about them and will probably eat up any feedback that comes there way. I had no idea that single picture has been posted so many times...
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Full Metal Jacket
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did you go onto glocktalk or ar15.com (where i provided a link, by the way)?
i've given you the references, and because you can't find them with a google search, you think there's only one pic? are you new to the internet, or something?
i also mentioned i have other reasons for not liking the gen4's that i've handled, and you also took a sarcastic approach to that. could you be any more rude? i have my personal preferences for not liking the gen4's, whether you like it or not.
you won't find me acting sarcastic & rude to fellow members because of their personal opinions of a firearm.
hirundo82
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So do Ruger, Sig-Sauer, Remington...
REAPER4206969
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What are you talking about? The GEN4 has been out for months.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/glock_ameriglo.html
Full Metal Jacket
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i think the world wide web is a new fangled thing to sidearmed....
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