Anyone got the Dimensions of the Charter Arms Off Duty Undercoverette .32 h&r revolver?

[Oninotaki]

I am looking for the smallest possible revolver I can stick in a pocket pocket that doesn't shoot rimfire cartridges.

I am fairly certain that the smallest revolver on the market that isn't a rimfire is the Taurus 380, but I wanted to do my due diligence and check around. That's how I found this guy listed on buds gun shop.

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Of course because it is a Charter Arms there is no info on it on handgun hero. So I am hoping someone here can be that hero for me. Any of you got the dimensions of the Charter Arms Off Duty Undercoverette in .32 H&R magnum? Hopefully it's smaller than it's name

 

[fxvr5]

Ask Charter Arms for the dimensions you're considering.

 

[lincen]

If you tell me exactly what you want measured I will get back with later today. I picked one of these up last month and I changed the grips .

 

[Oninotaki]

If you tell me exactly what you want measured I will get back with later today. I picked one of these up last month and I changed the grips .

Oh man thanks! I am interested in over all length and height, and cylinder diameter.

I already have a Taurus 327, and I am hoping that the Charter Arms is between the Taurus 327 and 380 in size.

If you don't mind me asking what did you change the grips to?

 

[JERRY]

I was lucky enough to find a Smith and Wesson 32 H&R magnum. After my last dealings with charter arms I'm just gonna stay away from them altogether.

 

[chicharrones]

I have an Undercoverette 6-shot .32 magnum. It is in the size range of a S&W J-Frame or the older Taurus 85 5-shot. The Taurus 856 6-shot is slightly larger and is what I consider J-plus sized.

I can get dimensions from my CA UC tonight to give a back up set of numbers to what @lincen can provide.

 

[Zendude]

The cylinder width on a Charter Arms Undercover 5 shot 38, Undercoverette 32, and a S&W airweight 5 shot 38 are 1.3 inches. The Taurus 380 and Taurus 856 are 1.4 inches wide.

 

[MedWheeler]

The Charter Undercovers/Undercoverettes are just a tick slimmer in the cylinder than a J-frame, looser in my holsters than the Js are. The shrouded barrels on the Charters are 0.13" longer, at a full two inches.

My Off Duty, a lightweight .38, with an unloaded weight of around 12 ounces, drops as easily into a pocket as would a 642. The Undercoverette (shrouded hammer version) would be the same size.

My older, vintage Charters (years 1966, 1971, 1985, and 1987) are all a bit smaller still due to their small, wood stocks.

 

[chicharrones]

Below are the dimensions from my CA UC 6-shooter in .32 H&R as seen here. The modified grip does not go past the backstrap of the grip frame.

Cylinder Diameter 1.3"
Grip Width 1.125"
Height w/o front sight measured 4.2"
Height with front sight 4.32"
Overall Length 6.375"

 

[Oninotaki]

Below are the dimensions from my CA UC 6-shooter in .32 H&R as seen here. The modified grip does not go past the backstrap of the grip frame.

Cylinder Diameter 1.3"
Grip Width 1.125"
Height w/o front sight measured 4.2"
Height with front sight 4.32"
Overall Length 6.375"

Thank you, that is very interesting. That makes it almost identical to a s&w 642. Which is good cause I am looking for something smaller than the 327.


This screen shot is from handgun hero. Top is the Taurus 380, middle is s&w 642, bottom is Taurus 327.



For reference here are the dimensions of the above snubbies also from handgun hero.

I like that the Charter Arms Undercoverette is almost identical in size to the the 642. I don't know if the extremely small size of the Taurus 380 compensates for the loss of one round, and switching to what I feel is an inferior caliber, although moon clip reloads are very tempting.

 

[Oninotaki]

I was lucky enough to find a Smith and Wesson 32 H&R magnum. After my last dealings with charter arms I'm just gonna stay away from them altogether.

I am jealous just because the lucky gunner video on what he carries was how I first heard about s&w revolvers in .32 h&r. I swear that video alone spiked the cost of them

 

[chicharrones]

I like that the Charter Arms Undercoverette is almost identical in size to the the 642. I don't know if the extremely small size of the Taurus 380 compensates for the loss of one round, and switching to what I feel is an inferior caliber, although moon clip reloads are very tempting.

If a .380 is in the cards, I just go the autoloader route. My Remington RM380 and Ruger LCP Max are smaller than a pocket "J" frame and hold more than 5 shots.

 

[Oninotaki]

If a .380 is in the cards, I just go the autoloader route. My Remington RM380 and Ruger LCP Max are smaller than a pocket "J" frame and hold more than 5 shots.

I appreciate the recommendation, but the .380 was in the running literally because I was curious what the smallest centerfire revolver that was in production currently was, and it looks like that is the Taurus 380. Not that I was actually looking for a second revolver in .380.

I have no actual interest in a pocket autoloader. However the Ruger Security 380 has caught my attention.

I am also very pleased to find out that the Charter Arms Undercoverette is smaller than my Taurus 327, and by enough that I could see it being a more comfortable fit for the coat pocket I am thinking of carrying it in. Thank you for taking those measurements.

 

[JERRY]

I am jealous just because the lucky gunner video on what he carries was how I first heard about s&w revolvers in .32 h&r. I swear that video alone spiked the cost of them

Yes. If S&W produced a lightweight centennial .32 h&r magnum again I think they'd sell very well if it were reasonably close in price to the 642.

 

[Dan-O]

If you don’t care about caliber, nor capacity, I don’t think you can get much smaller than a smith 340

 

[chicharrones]

I appreciate the recommendation, but the .380 was in the running literally because I was curious what the smallest centerfire revolver that was in production currently was, and it looks like that is the Taurus 380. Not that I was actually looking for a second revolver in .380.

I have no actual interest in a pocket autoloader. However the Ruger Security 380 has caught my attention.

I am also very pleased to find out that the Charter Arms Undercoverette is smaller than my Taurus 327, and by enough that I could see it being a more comfortable fit for the coat pocket I am thinking of carrying it in. Thank you for taking those measurements.

The Taurus .380 sure is an intriguing option just for the short overall length of it. It can get smaller still with a different grip attached to it. My departed Taurus 85UL had a shorter grip that helped it be a good size for a pocket revolver.

 

[Oninotaki]

The Taurus .380 sure is an intriguing option just for the short overall length of it. It can get smaller still with a different grip attached to it. My departed Taurus 85UL had a shorter grip that helped it be a good size for a pocket revolver.

Yeah I was thinking of putting a pair of these premium gun grips, paired with a bk grip on it if I went that small.

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[chicharrones]

Yeah I was thinking of putting a pair of these premium gun grips, paired with a bk grip on it if I went that small.

Taurus Grips fits Taurus 856 series 942, ROSEWOOD and Pearl .22/.38/ Classic

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Not a bad choice. I have original wood grips with a BK adapter on my CA Pocket Target as seen here.

 

[Oninotaki]

If you don’t care about caliber, nor capacity, I don’t think you can get much smaller than a smith 340

I really like the 340 when I held one at a shop, but I didn't like that it was rimfire. Handgun hero says that the 340 is the same size as the 642, which if true means that I would be very happy with a Charter Arms Undercoverette as 6 shots of h&r mag is superior in my mind to 7 of .22wmr. As long as Chicharrones measurements are accurate that is.

 

[Oninotaki]

Not a bad choice. I have original wood grips with a BK adapter on my CA Pocket Target as seen here.

That's sharp.

 

[Dan-O]

I really like the 340 when I held one at a shop, but I didn't like that it was rimfire. Handgun hero says that the 340 is the same size as the 642, which if true means that I would be very happy with a Charter Arms Undercoverette as 6 shots of h&r mag is superior in my mind to 7 of .22wmr. As long as Chicharrones measurements are accurate that is.

My 340 is chambered in .357 mag

 

[Oninotaki]

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My 340 is chambered in .357 mag

You know I was thinking of the 351PD when you said 340.

 

[Dan-O]

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You know I was thinking of the 351PD when you said 340.

Just messing with you. I’m interested to see what you think of the charter. I like em.

If you are doing it for the caliber(.327), don’t discount the lcr/x. More expensive, but worth it imho.

 

[chicharrones]

If you are doing it for the caliber(.327), don’t discount the lcr/x. More expensive, but worth it imho.

Indeed.

 

[Tallball]

I really like my Charters, but two of the four had to go back to the factory.

This one did not. I bought it used for very little about ten years ago. Has given me zero problems.

It's roughly the same size as a Taurus or Smith j-frame. A bit lighter than the steel ones.

I also have a Taurus 327, but would prefer to carry the CA due to the lighter weight. Grind off the hammer spur and it's good to go.

Charter Arms 32 Magnum

• Tallball
• Feb 12, 2018