Anyone have a TNW Aero Survival Rifle PCC?

I know a lot of you guys really enjoy building ARs. I get it. I just don't want to do it myself. All I really wanted was to buy a PCC in one of the two cartridges I really like and already reload for, hopefully utilizing the magazines I already own. I've already got a red dot sitting around, would add a set of Magpul MBUS sights, and figure out a sling for carry.

Honestly, I kinda like the idea of the "featureless" Just Right Carbine, because it seems likely it would be less of a hassle on road trips in the West, where some States are getting difficult. But that would require looking more closely at State laws.
 
I really wanted a 10mm carbine for a long time and finally found one for sale. I almost bought it but I just couldn’t do it after reading some of the threads about caliber swaps. It’s a much more intensive swap than it would seem, and the one guy I found that had done a swap had all kinds of trouble getting the gun to run after swapping. I think he went 9 to 40 and couldn’t get the 40 working right and swapped back to 9 and had a lot of trouble with it as well. The design seems simple enough to keep it going, but I would be very cautious about trying to do a caliber swap.

I don’t so much mind an AR, but they are heavy for what they are and they are so common that they aren’t interesting. I would prefer to have just about anything else just to make it interesting, but when you can buy a $600 complete 10mm carbine from BCA it’s hard to do anything different, especially when the other option is more expensive and questionable in quality.
 
I hadn't heard of the TNW, but seeing the photo, I immediately assumed it was a reincarnation of the Just Right Carbine. I had a JRC several years ago, among several other PCC's, and I just wasn't terribly impressed. Maybe interesting that it felt like just that much "more gun" than, say, the Keltec or the Hi Point, but I felt the Ruger PC9/40 was more interesting - I'd have loved a takedown Ruger PC9 Carbine back in those days, less interesting for me today, as I'd much prefer the solid Ruger PCC with the mlok handguard today. Less juvenile delusion about what I'd do with a "backpack gun" in 9mm, I guess.

But I do tend to agree with the general sentiment - for the money, there are more interesting options. I'd be much more likely to buy/build a Glock-arbine or PCC AR over, or again, pick up a solid barrel Ruger PCC.
 
someguy2800 said:
I later added a Scheel Roller delay buffer tube to it, which is about $275, so now I have a true roller delay gun for well less than $1K.
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Hey, that's a pretty slick looking upgrade, but the $300-350 they're running is pretty steep for what you get.

That'd about double the amount I'm into on my AR9, I'd like one though. Does it cut down on port pop for suppressed guns?
 
gotboostvr said:
Hey, that's a pretty slick looking upgrade, but the $300-350 they're running is pretty steep for what you get.

That'd about double the amount I'm into on my AR9, I'd like one though. Does it cut down on port pop for suppressed guns?
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Yes it does by a great deal. Like a dramatic difference. I actually just swapped out my 10.5" barrel for a 5" barrel because it greatly reduced the port pop. I have to agree with you that it is expensive for a buffer and buffer tube, but compare the price of your AR9 + the scheel buffer tube to the cost of any other roller delay 9mm and this is still dramatically cheaper. The only other thing that's really in the same price league for a delayed blowback that I'm aware of is if you buy the CMMG barrel and bolt and build your own, but I tried that and could not get mine to run.
 
someguy2800 said:
Yes it does by a great deal. Like a dramatic difference. I actually just swapped out my 10.5" barrel for a 5" barrel because it greatly reduced the port pop. I have to agree with you that it is expensive for a buffer and buffer tube, but compare the price of your AR9 + the scheel buffer tube to the cost of any other roller delay 9mm and this is still dramatically cheaper. The only other thing that's really in the same price league for a delayed blowback that I'm aware of is if you buy the CMMG barrel and bolt and build your own, but I tried that and could not get mine to run.
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Oh that's good to know. I was thinking about going to a ~5" barrel myself. I think my retro AR9 would look great with a tucked can.

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@gotboostvr Mean Arms is coming out with a roller delay 9mm upper in the near future (they call it bearing delay, but same thing) but I have not seen yet where the pricing is going to land. It looks like an intricate and expensive thing to me though. I really think the Scheel design is an ingenious solution because it puts the delay mechanism in the stock so it keeps it away from the fouling and gunk in the front of the action and it means you only have to buy one and then you can use multiple uppers if you want which is one of the design aspects people like best about the AR platform. My lower was recently SBR'd so that is more savings for me since I can run both my uppers on one NFA lower.

Edit: for those curious I just looked at the Mean Arms website and they have pricing listed now at roughly $1500 for a complete upper
 
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toivo said:
Don't know anything about them. First impression is that it's big for a "survival" rifle. Related question: Why are most survival rifles semi-auto? Seems to me that manual actions like bolt or lever would be more durable in extreme conditions.
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I agree about a bolt action. People are more interested in firefights than hunting.
 
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someguy2800 said:
@gotboostvr Mean Arms is coming out with a roller delay 9mm upper in the near future (they call it bearing delay, but same thing) but I have not seen yet where the pricing is going to land. It looks like an intricate and expensive thing to me though. I really think the Scheel design is an ingenious solution because it puts the delay mechanism in the stock so it keeps it away from the fouling and gunk in the front of the action and it means you only have to buy one and then you can use multiple uppers if you want which is one of the design aspects people like best about the AR platform. My lower was recently SBR'd so that is more savings for me since I can run both my uppers on one NFA lower.

Edit: for those curious I just looked at the Mean Arms website and they have pricing listed now at roughly $1500 for a complete upper
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That price is tough to swallow.

I emailed them to see if it will work with a PSA ARV lower that utilizes scorpion patterned magazines. About the only way I would be interested and still probably not at that price point.
 
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