Anyone seen the new Remington Model 798?

What do you think...CZ...Remmy...other?

  • CZ 550 Safari Magnum Field Grade (.458WM)

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • Remington 798 Safari (.458WM)

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • Other Turn-Bolt in .458WM/Lott

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • I'm a weenie...just stick to .22 caliber.

    Votes: 7 30.4%
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    23
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I have been looking for a deal on a .458WM/Lott in a CRF turn-bolt action and was browsing Gunbroker/GunsAmerica and noticed the new Remmy 798. Has anyone seen one of these rifles? Despite my dislike for Remington (due to a general poor quality fit and finish), this rifle appears to be pretty nice. It has a Mauser action with CRF and claw extraction, "real-wood" laminated stock, gloss blue, and a barrel band sling stud.

Compared to the CZ 550 Safari the (dis)advantages are as follows:

Pros:
>Better wood quality than the field grade CZ stock
>Barrel band for sling (keeps your hand from getting chewed up during recoil)
>Lighter weight (by over a lb.)
>Shorter OAL (and bbl)
>Looks like a shorter action (faster bolt cycle time)
>Slightly Cheaper

Cons:
>Hogsback stock with schnabel forearm on the CZ looks better to me (and should dampen recoil a little at the cost of more muzzle rise)
>CZ has better sights: Express sights with one standing and two folding (but will very likely be scoped anyway)
>3 cartridge internal magazine (5 in the CZ)
>Lighter (the CZ should have better recoil dampening)
>Shorter bbl (affording less velocity)
>Says "New For 2008"..."special Safari edition"...does this mean it was only produced in 2008?

So what do you guys think...I am starting to lean towards the Remmy...but want to see one first. Heck lets make it a poll...keep the "other" recommendations to comparable models = no $2000.00 rifles. :)
 
Couple votes...anyone care to elaborate? How does the 798 look...I have handled the CZ and it points well, but I think the aesthetics leave a little to be desired. :)
 
For the money the Remington 798 is hands down the better value.

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That my friend is why I listed it as an advantage and a disadvantage. It is nice to have a lighter weight for carrying it...and a great deal nicer to have a heavier rifle when you decide to chunk a 450gr. hunk-o-lead out at 2250fps (over 70ft/lbs of recoil in the 8.5lb rifle). Of course it is easier to add weight (like a mercury recoil reduction cell in the stock) than it is to remove it from a magnum rifle that is too heavy stock. :)
 
I own a few CZ's and am quite happy with them. Nice wood metal fit,deep darl bluing, nicely figured wood, the single set trigger are ok.I have handled several 798's and to me, they are a bit rough around the edges as far as fit and finish goes.The bolts are rough too. I havent shot a Rem do I could'nt tell you how they actually perform.


Just me , I like the CZ over the Zavasta any day of the week.
 
X2A, did you handle the Safari edition or was it another model? I have seen some of the other models and was not terribly impressed...the Safari edition appears to be much nicer, but like I mentioned earlier I haven't seen it in person (and just about everything looks great on the manufacturers website). To be perfectly honest I wasn't terribly impressed with the smoothness of the bolt on the CZ Safari, but that may have been one of the odd bad ones, all other CZ turn bolts have had a great action. :)
 
You do realize the "new" Remington is nothing more than a Yugoslavian made Interarms Mark X rifle that has been made for years. Remington is buying them and having their name stamped on them. They are considered a good basic gun but the actions can be a little rough when new. They have been imported under several names including Charles Daly. A lot of people have observed that the quality is not as good since Remington has been importing them, but the ones I have seen seem OK to me. The Safari Edition may well have had a little more attention than the standard rifles.

I have a 338-06 built on one of the older Interarms marked actions and it works fine for me. It is also my understanding that Remington has recently stopped importing them. I could be wrong, but if they have finding one could be a little more difficult.
 
Ah yes, our Serbian friends from Montenegro.

The Yugoslavian commercial Mauser's can be fine firearms, especially for the money, the Remington 798 is a good deal.

The product itself, and I'm going out on a limb here, is of great quality and value...at times. We are talking Zastava product here.

Since the U.S. smacked down Zastava's factory, its been rebuilt and is in full swing, rifles have been received well since but IMO quality has suffered compared to the older, before the bombs fell, rifles.

This is not to say that the recent flock of Z's are of no count but simply, they have been better.

Have you tried Simpsons Collectibles yet? He has many Commercial Mauser's but may be expensive. Most of his stuff is Husqvarna.

These are the same Mausers as the Interarms Mk.X and the Charles Daly rifles, I suppose it is Remingtons turn at bat with the Yugo's.

The Remington imports do seem to be better finished than the Charles D's.
The shrouds have been changed and look pretty good, the bolts are nowhere near as smooth as some other Z's I own.

I like the 798's myself, I had one in .375 H&H, nice rifle.

At around $300 price difference between the two, if you need a big boomer and can't find a good Interarms Mk X or a good Husky(Husqvarna) go for the 798.

Keep in mind Remington has dropped the Yugo line, so you may want to wait and see who brings them in next....any bets on who it will be? lol

BTW...don't pay over $650 for one!
 
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I purchased a CZ Safari American in 375H&H a couple of years back. It's big and a bit heavy, but points perfectly for me. I acutally like the size and weight because most of my shooting is from a bench, and honestly it's a pussycat in the recoil dept.

Mine is a field grade, and it and a few others I have seen have really good wood, a good bit of tiger stripe in buttstock.

Initally the action was stiff, but sitting down and just cycling the action a lot while watching TV did a good job of smoothing it up.

A few months later after I bought it I saw one of the Rem 798's and was impressed. I did like the longer barrel of the CZ, but the one thing I really liked on the Rem was the anti bind rail on the bolt, aka, Mauser. The action was a little rough but I think cycling a lot maybe using some Flitz would smooth it up a lot. Wood on this one was plain but nice, nothing to brag about.

Personally, I would handle them and take which I liked best at the time.
 
I have two Zastava mausers. They are dependable and generally well made, but not as well finished as the more highly thought of "CZ" (Czeska Zobrovka verses Crevena Zastava).

If you buy a 798, consider it a Zastava. Remington has almost nothing to do with it. I know they will have some warranty support, but to call it a Remington, well, the wood is Remington.
 
I would definately go with the CZ over the Remmington model of the Zastava. My .459 is built on a Daly action, which is who imported the Zastava just before Remington took. WHile the action can be decent Remington seemed to really do shooters a disservice when they put their own cheap stock on them, the two I have handled were poorly fitted and constructed.

The CZ is not a godsend rifle, but it is solid and the American Safari stock is pretty good.
 
I was not aware that the 798 was a Zastava, that really puts me at ease, as Remmy quality has been (aesthetically) poor. The only Remmy I own is a family heirloom (actually a pretty nice rifle...but is about 70yrs old when quality was expected) and a electric razor (that was replaced by a Braun).

Have you tried Simpsons Collectibles yet?
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No,never heard of it, do you have a URL? When I try google...well, I get collectibles, from The Simpsons.

BTW...don't pay over $650 for one!
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Are you serious? The Safari model for $650.00USD? I will buy it in a heartbeat for that! The MSRP on the CZ is just short of $1200 and can be bought for slightly less, I expected the Remmy to be slightly less (by perhaps $100) because it's MSRP is about $1150. Please confirm. :)
 
Thank you all for the comments, I really need to find one of these fabled 798s. That said if I find one for $650.00 and it fits well and has a decent finish and good mechanism...it will find it's way home with me. :)
 
Thanks for the link Mike, that is what I thought you were referring to...$650.00 is still a great price for any dangerous game caliber rifle. :)

EDIT: Checked the Simpson's, and it doesn't look like they have any .458's right now, but found a neat little Husquavarna M45, chambered in .45-70...but it is missing the extractor...which I believe could be a big problem on a Mauser type action. :cuss:
 
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I've been shopping around for a .375 H&H and was pretty much set on getting a CZ. That is until I found a 798 on Gunbroker and got it for under $600. I couldn't resist that great price. Seeing as how I had just bought a new rifle and didn't know a lot about it I searched around and read as many reviews as I could on the 798 series. They seem to be great guns, especially for the money. Plus you a rifle that is easy to customize since it is built on a standard large ring Mauser action. You sacrifice the magazine capacity and the true express sights but I have found more options for rings and bases for the 798 if you wanted to mount a scope. I haven't picked up the gun yet but as soon as I do I'll try to post a range report. I would search gunbroker.com and the other auction sites and you may get a deal like I did on the 798 or the CZ. I dont think you can go wrong with either one.
 
Thanks for the reply, and your service, uva. I will have to shop GunBroker a bit more, and see what I can come up with. I did find and handle a little girlie model, chambered in the wimpy 7mm Rem. Mag., today at Bass Pro. The fit and finish was pretty good but the stock didn't appear to be the same as the one pictured above (and on the Rem. site) and the bolt hung up on the follower. When I put a little pressure on the back of the follower, the bolt was very smooth. If this is even a problem on the last round when the rifle is loaded I'm sure I can remedy this problem without too much trouble. I have seen dozens of Mausers with the same issue so it doesn't worry me in the least. :)
 
Mav, that follower thing you encountered is a quirk unique to military Mauser actions.

It's not a defect or broken, the actions created for the military 'hang up' on the follower of the magazine, after the last round is fired, to keep the bolt in the rearward position to facilitate stripper clip, or just plain old loading of the magazine.

It also let the soldier know he was out of ammo... if you think about it, this system is pretty neat.
 
I have noticed it on many Mauser actions...just didn't realize it was that way by design. The one I played with (the sissy 7mm RM) had a bolt that would go atop the follower, but it was rough going. Not a big issue either way...I can count to three...if it were a CZ (which holds 5) that might be a bigger problem. :D
 
yea...I'd hate to be in the heat of battle with only one boot on!
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Or while being charged by a horde of angry flesh eating...emu...the obvious use for this rifle. :D
 
Thanks JP, that is not the specific rifle that I am interested in (I like the 22" barrel a little better), but they have a few that are interesting. One in particular is a Interarms Mk X that is going for sub-$700.00. I believe that it is also made by Zastava. :)
 
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