Has anyone tried one of these yet? I've got a bucket full of 5.56 brass. That's going to be a lot of work, but I figure this may be the most efficient way of removing all of those crimps. Call me chicken, but I'd rather not be the first to try one!
Anyone Tried a Hornady LNL AP Primer Pocket Swage Tool?
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Looks cool. Kinda pricey, Do not see it being much faster than the RCBS or CH4d unit.(die versions) Still just swages one at a time. As with those, it still needs to be finicky adjusted for every kind of brass. I gave up and just ream them out now.
Guinea Pig would be the correct animal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYKL3hrrpOs
Guinea Pig would be the correct animal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYKL3hrrpOs
DRAINSMITH
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I bought both and have only used the one for the .223. It works great . Just one warning, have a can of compressed air or a small air compressor.
SSN Vet
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I haven't used the Hornady swager, but I have my brother's Dillon Super Swager on loan, and I can't imagine it getting any better.
It's very fast and easy to set up.
It's very fast and easy to set up.
Nope, would not buy. $100 wasted IMO.
I would just buy this, and use a drill or drill press.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063IDE6A?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I mount mine in a drill press. Place a board with a 1/4" hole drill in it below the cutter to hold the case. Clamp in place. Set case in hole. Lower press to cut. Rinse repeat. At one point when I had 2000 pieces of 5.56 to process I rigged a rope and board onto the press handle so I could feed with both hands. Sped up production considerably.
I prefer to cut over swage. Ive tried both.
Cutting crimp does make for very uniform primer seating pressure. Swaging not so much.
Swaging does generally require you to sort all cases by headstamp as each brand of case does have variances in the web thicknesses. Cutting it doesnt matter.
Comparison in speed? Anyone can go rally fast on a SuperSwage for a few minutes. The same can be said for how I do it on a drill press. Either way, its mind numbing work that I do with my radio turned up loud with a beverage in hand. If I was really worried about speed? Id by a Dillon 1050, and even that can have issues due to web thickness variances.
Swaging might extend case life, but I have some LC that I cut crimps on thats 5-6 reloads in my AR with a pretty hot load that are still holding up. The ones that I do have to trash its from the neck splitting, not the primer pocket getting loose.
I would just buy this, and use a drill or drill press.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0063IDE6A?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I mount mine in a drill press. Place a board with a 1/4" hole drill in it below the cutter to hold the case. Clamp in place. Set case in hole. Lower press to cut. Rinse repeat. At one point when I had 2000 pieces of 5.56 to process I rigged a rope and board onto the press handle so I could feed with both hands. Sped up production considerably.
I prefer to cut over swage. Ive tried both.
Cutting crimp does make for very uniform primer seating pressure. Swaging not so much.
Swaging does generally require you to sort all cases by headstamp as each brand of case does have variances in the web thicknesses. Cutting it doesnt matter.
Comparison in speed? Anyone can go rally fast on a SuperSwage for a few minutes. The same can be said for how I do it on a drill press. Either way, its mind numbing work that I do with my radio turned up loud with a beverage in hand. If I was really worried about speed? Id by a Dillon 1050, and even that can have issues due to web thickness variances.
Swaging might extend case life, but I have some LC that I cut crimps on thats 5-6 reloads in my AR with a pretty hot load that are still holding up. The ones that I do have to trash its from the neck splitting, not the primer pocket getting loose.
kitsapshooter
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Use a 1050 setup for swaying and trimming cases. Awesome sauce.
Yep, $2k worth of awesome sauce which is beyond what most of us want to spend....
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Doesnt help you with your question necessarily, but I used the swager from the Hornady multi tool and chucked it in a drill to do 1000 223s one weekend. Bing bang boom, party over. (worked great)
Hornady Primer Pocket Swage Tool Review
You're right Rule3, after some overtime (free spending money) I ordered one. I used it for the first time this weekend Here are some impressions after setting it up and using it for 100 rounds:
1) I was severely disappointed when I opened the box and found no bushings. I couldn't figure that one out. It only fits on a Hornady LNL AP press. Everyone is going to need the three bushings, why not include them in the package?
2) I was a little disappointed when some of the threads on the removal die were mucked up. A wrench on the lock ring took care of that.
3) I thought it was extremely easy to set up. Turns out I went too far with the swaging die. I backed it off considerably while testing with a hand primer.
4) As the second round pushes the first out of the removal die, at the end you end up with one left in the die. It was simple and easy enough to remove the die and push it out, but it would have been nice for Hornady to include any tips/tricks that they may have come up with. Fore warned is always nice!
5) Its very simple and fast to operate. I'm still working on pausing when the shell plate is raised. That's still taking some getting used to!:banghead:
To sum it Up: I think its a well made (except maybe for those die threads!), easy to use and adjust tool that is sooo much faster than the Dillon!
Art
Rule3 said:
You're right Rule3, after some overtime (free spending money) I ordered one. I used it for the first time this weekend Here are some impressions after setting it up and using it for 100 rounds:
1) I was severely disappointed when I opened the box and found no bushings. I couldn't figure that one out. It only fits on a Hornady LNL AP press. Everyone is going to need the three bushings, why not include them in the package?
2) I was a little disappointed when some of the threads on the removal die were mucked up. A wrench on the lock ring took care of that.
3) I thought it was extremely easy to set up. Turns out I went too far with the swaging die. I backed it off considerably while testing with a hand primer.
4) As the second round pushes the first out of the removal die, at the end you end up with one left in the die. It was simple and easy enough to remove the die and push it out, but it would have been nice for Hornady to include any tips/tricks that they may have come up with. Fore warned is always nice!
5) Its very simple and fast to operate. I'm still working on pausing when the shell plate is raised. That's still taking some getting used to!:banghead:
To sum it Up: I think its a well made (except maybe for those die threads!), easy to use and adjust tool that is sooo much faster than the Dillon!
Art
Its no different than any other piece of gear that swages. You have to sort cases by headstamp because web thicknesses can be and are different for every manufacturer. Then you have to set the swager for the correct depth.
If I was going to spend a $100 to swage, Id just buy a SuperSwage, mod it a little bit, and have less hassle.
Using a cutter is still the simplest way. Nothing to sort or adjust. Just cut the crimps, and your done. If you are in a situation where you are constantly removing crimps, you might want to look into buying a 1050. I have cut crimps on as many as a 1000 pieces of brass in a single go, and it sucked, but I keep my brass after firing, so I only need to process brass I pick up or purchase.
snuffy
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OIC, it ONLY works on the Hornady progressive press! Here I thought it might be an option instead of the POS RCBS swager. I remove primer crimps with the cutters, it actually works better anyway.
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