Anyone tried these surplus .308's?

[Malone LaVeigh]

Had the alarming experience lately of trying to find some inexpensive .308 rounds in California for a day of plinking with my son. Couldn't find anything less than about .75 a round! Now I'm back in Miss. thinking I might want to hoard the good South African stuff I have. So I found this at AIM Surplus:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/308.html

Anyone tried the Lithuanian or Prvi Partisan stuff? Interesting that the new stuff is about the same price as the surplus. I was thinking about ordering a couple hundred rounds of the PP to check out. We had pretty good results with their .44 mag in my friend's DE.

 

[unrealtrip]

I've been using the Prvi Partisan out of my M1A and it does fine. Not as tight as the standard commercial .308 I've shot, but decent practice ammo.

 

[rangerruck]

wolf gets 95 percent of their stuff from prvi, so should do you fine.

 

[crazed_ss]

I shoot South African and Venezualan .308 out of my M1A with no problems.

Im thinking I should buy some of this before it's all gone. http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=7240

 

[evan price]

Welcome to the world of no more cheap .308.

Right now there is nothing worth shooting that is cheap.

South African battlepacks are going for $75 a piece and are selling quick at that price.

Personally, I find that if you shop carefully you can find new production boxer-primed (Reloadable!) commercial ammo for $.50/rd. That's about it. Why bother shooting up old stinky Berdan primed surplus when you can get fresh for the same price.
However, having a supply of military sealed battlepack ammo would be nice for TSHTF situations. Just don't focus so much on that that you miss out on scoring good practice ammo. Even if you personally don't reload your own, that nice one-time-fired .308 boxer brass sells for a premium price right now. I've seen $.10/ea and up for good brass. That takes your ammo investment down to $.40/rd which is today, a Good Deal.

 

[Don't Tread On Me]

South African battlepacks are going for $75 a piece and are selling quick at that price.

WOW! I remember when those were $25. I think they were even cheaper at one point.



You folks can thank the UN. It will only get worse.

 

[theken206]

"It will only get worse."


yup, glad imma start rolling my own before too long

 

[Ash]

OF course, if OSHA has its way, you won't even be able to roll your own.

Ash

 

[Nightcrawler]

$110.00 for 200 rounds isn't all that great of a deal. $90.00 is better.

Try Georgia Arms Canned Heat. I just ordered two thousand rounds of it. $440.00 per 1,000, $115.00 for 250 rounds.

 

[crazed_ss]

That's a really good price.

Have you fired their ammo before?

 

[Gunsnrovers]

Between the for sale ads on Fal Files, CalGuns, and AR15.com, getting decent surplus into California seems to run $.43 ~ $.48 per round delivered. South African, Australian, Portuguese, Malaysian (Pindad), etc.

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

I had to go back and look at an old invoice to make sure I wasn't remembering wrong... sure enough, I was paying .17 a round a year ago.

Thanks for the tips. I'll have to give the canned heat a try.

 

[El Tejon]

crazed, I've shot Georgia Arms ammo (.223) at gun schools before with no problems whatsoever. (I've had dead rounds from Black Hills and Remington in gun camps before). I'm taking Georgia Arms ammo with me this year and next to gun camps.

We need to organize a group buy of Georgia Ammo. A bunch of Indiana guys at GT and ARF did so last summer and we got a great price.

Malone, the PP works just fine for me. However, my HK91s (which are typically picky in the German tradition) do not like it (runs, groups just aren't as good). FALs and M14s do not seem to be bothered. What are you shooting out of?

 

[BADUNAME13]

Try Georgia Arms Canned Heat.

If you want to risk blowing up your rifle...


-Go ask some of the guys who have trained at Tactical Response and brought Canned Heat...

 

[Gunsnrovers]

I had to go back and look at an old invoice to make sure I wasn't remembering wrong... sure enough, I was paying .17 a round a year ago.

and you could get Imbel FAL kits for $125...

 

[MechAg94]

So y'all are telling me that I could sell one of my cases of SA battlepacks for $75 each. At least one case I bought was the 1260 round case. Thats $675 or well over double what I paid. I'll have to see what a case of new ammo would cost.

 

[cheygriz]

Prvi Partisan ammo is as good, or probably better, than the South African surplus.

 

[Nightcrawler]

I've shot Georgia Arms ammo (.223) at gun schools before with no problems whatsoever. (I've had dead rounds from Black Hills and Remington in gun camps before). I'm taking Georgia Arms ammo with me this year and next to gun camps.

If you want to risk blowing up your rifle...


-Go ask some of the guys who have trained at Tactical Response and brought Canned Heat...

So which one of you guys am I supposed to believe?

Name a brand of ammo, and you'll find somebody on the board that insists it's crap, that it'll blow up your rifle, that it's inaccurate, and that it's no good.

My last batch of South African was utter garbage. Inconsistent recoil, inconsistent velocity, all kinds of problems. I've never had ammo so bad.

I've used S&B ammo without a single problem, as have many people in this board. Firearms instructor John Farnam insists that it's no good, that he's seen too many problems with it, and that he doesn't recommend it.

So what can you do?

Having used Georgia Arms ammo in the past, I trust their ammo as much as I trust anybody's. Besides, it'll take a lot to blow up my rifle.

If I have any problems with it, I'll certainly report! As is, though, the only thing cheaper I could find was Indian. No thank you.

 

[nobody_special]

As is, though, the only thing cheaper I could find was Indian. No thank you.

Indian? Really? Where? I thought it was all gone...

The only ammo I have for my M1A is Indian (70's OFV). After about 350 rounds fired, I'm quite pleased... it's certainly not match, but it's good plinking ammo. And at $0.25/rd. it was much less expensive than the alternatives. Wish I could get more at that price now...

 

[azeyecap]

i recently purchased a case of white box federal (maybe winchester) from midway. Its new production for 10 bucks a box, 50 cents a round. I do reload so i got 1000 piecies of brass too. Im not sure if they still have the sale on, but they did as of a month or two ago.

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

Malone, the PP works just fine for me. However, my HK91s (which are typically picky in the German tradition) do not like it (runs, groups just aren't as good). FALs and M14s do not seem to be bothered. What are you shooting out of?

I shoot a Garand chambered in .308. I just "loaned" my M1-A to my son, which means I probably won't see much of it in the future, but he's about to go into the army, and I would be getting ammo for him, anyway. My business partner has a G-3. So I guess we'll probably not be pleasing everyone, whatever we get.

So far, all of our rifles liked the SA. Sorry to hear the report of the inconsistency between batches, though.

For us, the Venezuelan was awful. I'm not interested in any of that at any price.

 

[DMK]

My last batch of South African was utter garbage. Inconsistent recoil, inconsistent velocity, all kinds of problems. I've never had ammo so bad.

What lot or year was that ammo?

 

[Nightcrawler]

What lot or year was that ammo?

1980, I think. I can't narrow it down any more than that. I had battlebacks that I bought from AIM last year mixed in with some that I'd purchased in 2003 or 2004. I just ripped them open and filled mags, so I have no idea which actual packs were giving me problems.

All of my SA was 1980 production, though.

 

[stolivar]

got 2

Battle packs I paid $24 a piece. And right now I have no 308's around.



steve

 

[evan price]

SA battlepacks for $75 plus shipping are going as fast as they list on Gunbroker and FalFiles. I see them at gun shows for $90 OTD frequently. 200-rd BP's of Port are going for $100-110 each.

The premium .308 MilSurp rounds are Hirtenburger, MEN, DAG, Aussie, Radway Green (England) and Portugeuese; they are in the $.50-$.60 a round plus S&H range right now;

SA is going for $.50 a round and up,

OFV 70's (Indian) went from $.08/rd when SA was $.18/rd, to up to $.40/rd today. I see the 400-rd cans going for $129 often, is actually pretty decent surplus, and it is Boxer primed (Reloadable).

The 1990's OFV Indian ammo in the plastic bags is awful; look at a handful of them and see the quality is terrible; setbacks are all over the place, dinged up projos, primers not seated evenly, crummy brass. Along with Chilean and Venezuelan ammo, (CAVIM) they are to be avoided.