Anyone worry about laser sights in a defense shooting?

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Has anyone ever been sued after using laser sights on a CCW gun? Couldn't the shootee's family sue you for modifying your firearm to make it extra super deadly and not having to really aim to kill people?
 
I ask you to accept the fact that you may be sued by anyone for virtually anything, no matter how frivolous it may sound. And if you are involved in a shooting under any circumstances whatever, you are going to need an attorney who has experience with shooting cases. That person would also be your best choice in deflecting a law suit either in court or before.

Cordially, Jack
 
Ever hear of it happening. though?

Nope. Incidentally, some police departments are authorizing their officers to install laser grips on their issue weapons. If yours is one of these, you have an almost bulletproof defense -- if defended by an experienced attorney.

I'm not an attorney, but I often think like one.

Cordially, Jack
 
Dead men can't sue you.

Now their lousy family will possibly try.

That is the time to lawyer up a counter sue them for the mental anguish you've endured, legal fees a new gun bc yours got scratched up when it got put on evidence, carpet
cleaning bills to remove the blood stains, a new door and lock, the cost of the ammo you had to use, the money you missed from missing work, the landscaping bill from having to re sod your lawn bc the stretcher left marks on the grass. A pressure washer to clean the oil off the drive away from his and the cop cars, your phone bill bc you had to call for help, a pizza bc you were to stressed to cook, some beer and soda bc you'd choke on the pizza without it and a vet bill bc your dog licked some ofthe blood and had to be tested for pathogens, dry cleaning bills for your clothes, electric bill bc you used extra wattage to light the house during the police visit, new bed sheets bc your kids wet the bed. Pain and suffering bc you stunned your toe in the dark and an additional $10,000 to cover any additional expense you may incure at a later date.

Sound stupid? Not as stupid as some p.o.s. Trying to sue you bc their perfect angel was stopped from robbing you for drugs. Attempting to kill you and raping your family. Blame the victim. Makes want to vomit.
 
Couldn't the shootee's family sue you for modifying your firearm to make it extra super deadly and not having to really aim to kill people?
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Guess you could argue by installing the laser, you actually made the gun less deadly, but more accurate (less chance of missing your target and striking unintended people/objects).

Kinda reminds me of the Ayoob story (flyin' on memory here) where when in court a lawyer argues someone increased the weapon's firepower by giving it a trigger job. Ayoob argued the trigger job actually decreased the firepower (weaker springs = slower cycling = less firepower) but increased the accuracy.
 
No, because I guess I am not worried about being sued at all. If I am forced to fire in defense of my life or someone elses life, that decision still requires the best tools at hand, and the decision to use them remains the same regardles the consequences.
 
modifying your firearm to make it extra super deadly and not having to really aim to kill people?

Laser sights do not make a firearm "extra super deadly". You still have to align the dot on the target. While they have there place in certain situations I think many use them as a crutch for poor gun handling skills.
 
I've got a laser sight and a 20 round mag, the mag came after a suit in Fl. that the family sued because the victim put in a 2nd mag. fortunately they lost as the coroner said the perp was dead by the 3rd shot so they could only sue for damage to a corpse.
 
A laser does not make a weapon more deadly.

You can miss just as easily with a laser as without one if you can't shoot a handgun accurately to start with!

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While they have there place in certain situations I think many use them as a crutch for poor gun handling skills.
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I find them helpful in training; specifically trigger control. Provides a visual referrence of a pulled shot in dry fire practice. I have C/T's on a S&W Scandium 340. When walking at night or going out on the town, it is my low light choice. I do not see how a well practiced laser is not a tremendous help on a two inch, 10 oz snubbie in the dark.
 
I do not see how a well practiced laser is not a tremendous help on a two inch, 10 oz snubbie in the dark.
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Yup-as the pros say (and it's very true with my LCP):
The smaller the gun, the better laser sights work on it!

The old eyes ain't what they used to be, and with those stock LCP sights... :banghead:
I predict a lot of point shooting with LCP's!
 
You need to learn how talk 'lawyer'.....


"I put a laser on my CCW because I thought it would help me aim and therefore make me less likely to hit innocent by standards in the event that I got attacked by someone....."

"I carry hollow points because they are less likely to over penetrate and cause unintentional harm to someone"

etcetera
etcetera
etcetera

I'm sure someone will find fault in that but it was right off the top of my head
 
When it comes to using lasers on a handgun for self defense, the laser not only helps you hit what you're aiming at, it also keeps you from NOT hitting someone or something that you do NOT want to shoot. Tell that to the prosecuter if you ever have to use it and they try to label you as a "RAMBO". By the way, that's another reason you should NEVER carry Home-made reloads in your carry gun, the first thing a prosecuter will say is "Oh, factory ammo isn't good enough for you, you had to load your own 'killer bullets'.
 
Anyone worry about laser sights in a defense shooting?
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I don't worry one whit about using lasers, hollowpoints, FMJ, customization, trigger jobs, "overkill" calibers, shooting the perp in the face, shooting the perp in the face multiple times, using reloads, using higher capacity magazines than standard, what my gun looks like, who uses my model of gun, or any of the hundreds of other things bloviated about on the intertubes.

My three concerns of CCW are "Am I legal to CCW in this area?", "Am I carrying a reliable gun?" and "I want my lawyer".

Fact is, if you are going to get sued, you are going to get sued, and they will use anything against you, no matter how much you try to preplan to avoid it. If you take that preplanning to obsession, you are going to be sticking a Nerf gun in your holster one day instead of a real one.
 
By the way, that's another reason you should NEVER carry Home-made reloads in your carry gun, the first thing a prosecuter will say is "Oh, factory ammo isn't good enough for you, you had to load your own 'killer bullets'.
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Could you cite four or five cases in which this was the first thing the prosecutor said?
 
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By the way, that's another reason you should NEVER carry Home-made reloads in your carry gun, the first thing a prosecuter will say is "Oh, factory ammo isn't good enough for you, you had to load your own 'killer bullets'.

Could you cite four or five cases in which this was the first thing the prosecutor said?



This has been discussed before. You can't duplicate gun shot residue and other firearms forensics if you are using reloads It's not a matter of "killer bullets".
 
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