Apartment Defense

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The best option is whatever you and your wife will take the time to practice with and learn on. IMO, it is better to go with a round/gun you both can shoot well than one that you can handle and she wont shoot. This may be as simple as a stock with a short length of pull for a shotgun, or just keeping 38+p in a revolver.

Shotguns are a very good lethal force option, that is not as penetration prone. With the new advancements in buck shot (Federal's tru-flite for instance) you are looking at a 2-3" spread maybe at 15 yards. You will still need to aim, especially at a short distance. Good Luck!
 
Ever tried punching a person? If you have your hand probably didn't go through them.

Try punching drywall. You'll go right through it.

Anything that will poke a hole into a human is going to penetrate drywall. The laws of physics will not be denied.

that's funny, my shot doesn't weigh 220 lbs. :)
 
My take-

- Preventative steps to lessen the apartment against trouble.
Lights, locks, alarms, dawgs, etc.

-Take note of apartment setting , how built, layout.
Firewalls, living on first floor, second floor, on the end, the middle, and how apartment is arranged one either side....

-Avenues.
Shooting lanes for incoming rounds, and cover ( cover differs from concealment).
Shooting lanes for outgoing rounds with cover.

-Then Fireams.
Let the wife choose.

Me, I suggest a medium frame revolver with standard pressure 158 grain loadings.
i. answering the door.
easier to answer the door with a handgun.

ii. bedside. In the event a criminal comes in and hides and then waits until wife is asleep...and medium frame revolver with a 3" barrel, is easy to hold onto, and shoot with, if she needs to grabble with the criminal.
No slides to hang up on bed linens.

-Shotgun, let her shoot and find what she likes.
A bigger person can shoot a small gun, where a smaller person cannot as effectivly shoot a bigger gun.

Best kept secret is a 20 ga semi auto, like a good used Win 1400, as the 1400 is the softest shooting semi.


Arrange the furniture where it goes - not where it necessarily looks best. - me

-Facts.

When the two rookie cops (brothers) that always got drunk, and played video games, missed the TV set at 3 feet with issued .40 cal Glocks...living next door to me...

Well for one these rounds went the other way, still my butt was on the floor behind heavy cover.

Neighbor, I knew, and she had shooting lanes and cover too.
Room where rounds fired butted up to her master bedroom.
She was not home and the roiunds never made it through the steel plate where her headboard was.
Other rounds were stopped by the bookcase in the "wrong" spot, in her second bedroom.


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Criminal gained access using a master key for maintenance work at apts.
[there is safety/ security "clew']
He pulled a gun and fired one round (.357 loads) which were stopped by a dresser, in the "wrong spot" filled with bricks and old phone books and the like.
This dresser media was tested against 30-06 and 12 ga slugs , then put into this dresser bought at a used place for $20.

Lady fired once from a Bobcat 21A, .22 lr and hit the criminal.
He went down, then she grabbed her 1100 20 ga, with slugs.
He was down and out.

She was in the bathroom at the time, and had the Bobcat handy as she cleaned her Model 10 and 1911, her CCW guns.

She had cover, and shooting lanes, and if she had missed, her rounds would have not gone through the wall, as cover was in the wrong spot to stop those too.
 
Anything that penetrates well in flesh, will penetrate drywall. It's an unavoidable fact. As others have stated, in apartment it's best to choose your shooting angles/lanes to minimize the risk of bullets entering other apartments, and make sure every shot counts. It also doesn't hurt to make sure you don't become a target in the first place.

that's funny, my shot doesn't weigh 220 lbs.

No, but its traveling much faster than your fist, and has a smaller overall surface area, both of are conducive to deeper penetration. And, despite its smaller size, its probably packing more ft/lbs of energy (unless perhaps you're Mike Tyson, or that Soviet boxer from Rocky IV). ;)
 
global,

Your options will vary depending on your and your SO's comfort level and budget. Good options include:

M1 Carbine loaded with expanding rounds;
.223 Carbine loaded with expanding rounds;
20 or 12 gauge pump or semi-auto (if your SO is willing to practice)
20 or 12 gauge double
If you choose a shotgun, please don't load it with birdshot. Also, please don't think .410 birdshot is good for anything other than experts shooting birds. I personally use reduced recoil slugs for defensive use, when using a shotgun (but prefer a .223 carbine). DON'T accept the opinion of random people on the internet about what actually will happen once a round hits flesh. Instead, take the few minutes of time it will take to actually research this on the net. Use search terms like "terminal ballistics" and "ballistic gelatin". Remember that penetration in gelatin will exceed penetration in tissue by at least a little.

It's not a bad idea to actually take ammunition that you can afford, which is dependable and accurate in your firearm, and test it out something. Water will tend to give deeper penetration and greater expansion than flesh, but you should be able to get an idea of what your round will do. Personally, I find three milk jugs to be about the penetration I want my defensive rounds to show.

Less effective and tending to penetrate more, any pistol caliber carbine. These do have the advantage of very little recoil.

Something else to consider, is a hunting rifle. Yeah, it will be loud as hell, but I've been present when a .270 went off inside before. Not pleasant, but I wasn't stunned or anything. If you can afford the money for a new firearm, you can probably afford electronic muffs that will allow normal hearing, but cut out when a shot goes off. Good investment. Anyway, if you go the hunting rifle route, choose a light for caliber round. If you chose a nice, lightly recoiling .243, for instance, pick something like a 75 grain VMAX for home defense. If the target is hit, far fewer worries about overpen than a sturdy handgun round. But don't take my word for it. Do the research, or invest a few bucks into testing it for yourself. :)

A sweet, great handling little rifle with low recoil is the CZ 527 in 7.62x39mm. Put a decent little 2x scope on this, and you've got a neat little rifle that can defend the homestead, is fun and inexpensive to shoot at the range, and that can take deer and hogs at reasonable ranges. Quality ammunition is now available for these, but again, all you have to do is invest a little time into testing for yourself. You may find that cheap 7.62x39mm HPs are highly effective and don't overpenetrate. :)

Good luck and have fun,

John
 
As at least one poster pointed out, "effective" and "safe" are competing terms.

I lean toward the effective side. If I need to fire, I really need to fire to save the life of myself or a family member. There's no question about it. Thus, the effectiveness must be there.

I won't be pulling the trigger unless I'm positive where I'm aiming. For example, I probably won't open fire on an assailant flying across the room east-west.

Another important consideration is that I don't want ever to think of a round as being safe in any way, shape or form. I don't want that in my head before or during an attack.
 
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