You literally are a shining example of @Varminterror point. Why aren't all of your "TONS" of mags loaded at all times. Answer it really doesn't make sense.
And for the record I also have plenty of mags, might have 20 or so loaded.
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And for the record I also have plenty of mags, might have 20 or so loaded.
Phaedrus/69
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I've read this a few times and I really can't figure out if you're making a point or not. Is ten too few? Why would I have more than that loaded all the time?
Buzznrose
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I’m confused by the post too. Kinda contradictory
I have been using PMags for over 10+ years. I keep a dozen or more loaded all the time. When I go to the range, I shoot them. Never any issues. These are Gen 2 and 3. Bought these when they were 10 or less. Have a couple of dozen still in packaging, never used.
Also have metal of various sizes. No failures there either, but I have not shoot these a lot.
Also have metal of various sizes. No failures there either, but I have not shoot these a lot.
You are right, but the question was in reference to Magpul magazines, and I believe they are made of plastic. Please, forgive me if I am deviating from the topic.
Maybe if you read the whole thread again you'd understand, as @Varminterror said you're self identifying with the wrong side.
Phaedrus/69
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I'll simplify things a bit; everyone should have as many mags as they can afford or fit in their home, and keep as many loaded as they see fit. Hopefully that works for everyone.
Loaded stripper clips are nice to have near your pile of mags, too.
Loaded stripper clips are nice to have near your pile of mags, too.
I think I have finally worn out the last of my gen1 magpuls this year. Ive had them since magpul started selling them. While I prefer metal mags, I still have umpteen dozens of Gen2-3 Magpuls as they are so cheap and disposable.
Not the same material as magpuls.
As many as you can afford. we are only a few votes away from AWB/Mag restrictions, etc.
Not the same material as magpuls.
As many as you can afford. we are only a few votes away from AWB/Mag restrictions, etc.
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It contradictory because.
@Varminterror says.
"have as many mags as your heart desires, but having them all loaded long term isn’t sensible."
And @Phaedrus/69 replies
"I suppose your "point", if I can use the term charitably, is that the correct amount of loaded mags is however many you have?"
YOU'VE MISSED THE POINT
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illinoisburt
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My mistake in reading your reply to imply the springs would develop issues when I think the real question being asked is how resistant are plastic mags to bugling and cracking over time. You cannot really tweak a plastic mag like a metal one where bending the feed lips or other adjustments are possible when they don't want to run right. The plastic is either 'it works' or 'it's time to recycle.'
Phaedrus/69
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I think the fact that plastic is, well, "plastic" allows it to deform and snap back. Again, not an AR mag but I found some USP mags in a box that I had loaded for so long that they held Black Talons! Despite decades of being loaded they work fine. Of course, I number my pistol mags so those I've kept to the side as range mags out of an abundance of caution. My oldest continuously-loaded PMags are only a few years old but I've mostly moved away from them to Lancer L5 mags over the last few years.
gralewaj
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I have an assortment of PMags, GI, TapCo and Lancer 20 and 30 round mags... I don't shoot regularly, but I get out and use them all when I can. I've not read any negative Lancer or TapCo reviews yet... where are they? All have worked well in range settings IMO. Has there been any issues with TapCo or Lancer mags on your end?
halfmoonclip
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Self confessed magazine hoarder, having lived through the Clinton ban, and fearing another from the brain trust in DC.
Post ban, I got the 20s we'd had in the service, NHMTGs. As the 30s became prevalent, got some of those. Maybe a half dozen 20s were kept loaded with 55 gr, and another half dozen 30s with green tips. Been shooting those up lately, after more than 20 years storage; they worked fine.
I had an MSAR AUG with its poly mags; some stayed loaded for years, and worked fine.
Swapped that on a real AUG, but the NATO version, rather than stockpiling two kinds of magazines, which led me to trying MagPuls...thus far, they have been great, and it's time to believe in plastics. The AUG has a poly firing package; only the springs are steel, and it is reputed to be very durable. An Aussie training film shows the troops cleaning it with water in a stream...
Now, OTOH, have had a Scorpion with its 1st gen translucent magazines, and some of those have developed feed lip cracks. The problem was attributed to solvents and oils. It's not an uncommon problem, and the factory has redesigned the mags of a different material; MagPul makes some too...both have a great reputation.
I guess it just depends.
It does seem prudent to keep those half dozen mags loaded, though. Just because.
Moon
Post ban, I got the 20s we'd had in the service, NHMTGs. As the 30s became prevalent, got some of those. Maybe a half dozen 20s were kept loaded with 55 gr, and another half dozen 30s with green tips. Been shooting those up lately, after more than 20 years storage; they worked fine.
I had an MSAR AUG with its poly mags; some stayed loaded for years, and worked fine.
Swapped that on a real AUG, but the NATO version, rather than stockpiling two kinds of magazines, which led me to trying MagPuls...thus far, they have been great, and it's time to believe in plastics. The AUG has a poly firing package; only the springs are steel, and it is reputed to be very durable. An Aussie training film shows the troops cleaning it with water in a stream...
Now, OTOH, have had a Scorpion with its 1st gen translucent magazines, and some of those have developed feed lip cracks. The problem was attributed to solvents and oils. It's not an uncommon problem, and the factory has redesigned the mags of a different material; MagPul makes some too...both have a great reputation.
I guess it just depends.
It does seem prudent to keep those half dozen mags loaded, though. Just because.
Moon
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I’m pretty much the only person who doesn’t love PMags. The only issues I’ve ever had with my ARs were when running my small number of gen 1 Pmags. I don’t have any gen threes because I don’t see the point. Quality, reliable STANAG AR mags with anti-tilt followers do everything I want them to do. But I don’t drive over them with my truck. So…
mcb
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I am with you. I am not a big fan of PMags. I have had more issues with them than other magazines. The further you step away from M193/M855 bullet profiles the more likely it seem to produce failures to feed. And in the rush of a fast reload at a carbine or 3-gun match I have had more Pmags do the bang-flop trick than any other magazine I have tried. If I am trying to hit the really fast reload I want my straight 20rd aluminum magazines.
Nobody mentioned Gen3 PMags in use by U.S. Marines, U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force? That's more relevant than my buddy, or my Uncle's use of them. BTW, I don't see Gen1 advertised on the web, or on the shelves at my LGS. I'll continue using the newer versions of PMags along with my Okay mags.
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mcb
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My own personal experience is more important that what any of the militaries are doing. The PMag of all generations have let me down, some of my my other magazines I have not. So, I use the ones that my guns, ammo and applications like. The PMag are certainly not awful but they are not the most reliable magazine I own. They are also not the most unreliable magazines I own either, that honor goes to some old C-product magazine I have. YMMV
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InTheSwamp
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Long term +P, yes.
Long term, no.
Long term, no.
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