Redneck2 you an some others get a A+ .....taliv, I don't want to shoot at full size targets at 20'. Those who are shooting at longer range with a scope, an want faster follow shots seem to understand, an thanks for the inmput, also thanks about the guys beside me at the range, I'll be cautious an not fire when someone is beside me there. Yes the .223 has little kick an recoil, but I was just wondering that a little softer recoil an jump would allow faster follow up shots, getting the crosshairs back on target faster for rapid fire or follow up shots like shooting at a coyote, or even a groundhog at long range or even short range, or if you want to see how fast you can put 10 rds in a quarter size target at 100yds.....thanks for the input guys, think I'll give a try, an see how it does...love that picture Big44mag!!!!