AR 15 Recommendation

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I'm looking to pick up an AR 15 chambered in .556/223 and am looking for some recommendations. Reliability, durability and a manufacturer that's going to be around are most important to me. My budget is $1000 to $1500 but I can go a little higher if it’s worth while but don't want to spend money needlessly. It'll be for range use and home defense and will have a Vortex Razor AMG UH-1 red dot sight mounted on it. I currently have a Ruger AR 556 that had a couple of issues that seem to have been resolved after a trip to Ruger, but the jury is still out on it.
 
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Windham Weaponry (the Old Bushmaster gunsmiths & factory), Stag, & Aero Precision is where I have invested for mid tear ARs. They all use 4150 steel & chrome line barrels. BCM is also good, but I have no personal experience. For more entry level I have been very happy with my S&W Sport 2 but that is very similar to your Ruger AR. That said you could get two M&P ARs in your budget. My buddy has a Del Ton that is also entry level but good.
 
I second the Rock River Arms AR, they have a great 2 stage trigger already and depending on the model you can buy moa guaranteed or less shooters.
 
You have about twice the budget that most do when looking for an AR. Considering that, I wouldn't mess around with any of the bang for the buck brands. Just buy yourself a Bravo Company AR from the vendor of your choice and you will not have to wonder if any of the parts are good or not. They will ALL be first rate.

If you want to save a bit of money, I'd suggest buying the complete upper from Bravo Company and then getting a lower through one of their vendors or putting the complete upper on a different complete lower. The most important parts of an AR are in the upper. The barrel, bolt/carrier group and upper receiver. The lower is less important. Perhaps a BCM upper and a lower from Aero Precision. Aero has some nice stuff. The Aero uppers are nice too, but I don't think that they are quite on par with BCM. I consider Aero to be an upper tier bang for the buck brand. I just, not 10 minutes ago, ordered a stripped Aero upper for a 9mm build. Yes, I like them.

I don't buy ARs. I build my own from the top to the bottom, but I have and do use a lot of Bravo Company parts. I wouldn't call them the best, but I'd say that BCM is right at that point where buying anything "better" would put you over the top with the law of diminishing returns and you'll be paying too much to get better and will likely never realize the benefits.
 
Tony is spot on with this post. IMO, every home should have at least one ‘defend the household’ rifle, built by professionals. BCM is one such company of professionals.

I disagree with those who said to build this one from scratch. Nothing against home built AR’s per say, but there can be issues with the gas system, which will impact reliability.

Either a complete rifle or a complete upper and complete lower would be my recommendation also.

Lots of guys focus on the furniture and trigger, but the gas system, buffer/buffer spring, and bolt carrier group are your critical components...choose wisely
 
SOLGW. They build darn good rifles and you would be very hard pressed to find a company that is more Pro 2A then SOLGW. Rock River can suck it!
 
https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/m4e1-complete-rifle-16in-223-wylde-mid

My choice lately.
It changes often though...;)

Did someone say “cain’t nearly go wrong” yet?

And I will also second building at home. Reliability is not a function of where is was assembled. And with careful shopping, I mean, hunting you can make your money stretch even further into quality.

The only two necessary tools are an extension torque rod ($24, Brownells) and a torque wrench. Most hand guards and receivers come with a barrel nut. Proprietary nuts usually come with a barrel nut wrench for the torque wrench.
All the other tools I just made do. I just bought punches and I’ve put together three now.

Even just buying the exact upper and lower you want and slapping them together is a great way to compromise less.

Can’t beat the ease of already built though...

It’s a great time to get into ARs.:thumbup:
 
SOLGW is local for me so I see how involved they are in 2A, especially one of the owners, Mike Mihalski. They make very good quality products and have excellent customer service.

I couldn't find this video anywhere else except of Facebook if you want watch it.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2815522398475280

Mike Mihalski from Sons Of Liberty GunWorks puts it all on the table after the Gun Violence/Gun Policy Townhall on 9/18/2019. Mike speaks from his heart. Listen to this BrockCast interview and tell us what you think about Mike’s comments about restrictions on your constitutional rights, gun buybacks and why WE ALL need to get involved!
 
Never had a problem with my Rock River until I decided to change it. Biggest PITA ever, but still trouble free from a working standpoint. If they have a configuration you’re sure you like, they make an excellent rifle.

I’ve got dozens of Aero Precision parts spread out among several rifles; everything from receivers to barrels, and gas blocks. Never had a bad experience yet. They also offer complete rifles.

SOLGW has a great philosophy to their company and I’ve been impressed with the quality of their parts. Once availability picks up I intend to build a complete pistol and SBR it.
 
Thanks for the feedback. While I'm knowledgable enough with handguns to do basic work on them such as replacing triggers and sights I'm a complete novice in regards to AR's. I'd be comfortable trying a build for a range gun but not for a home defense gun. My concern is that I don't know enough to even ask the right questions in regards to ordering parts.

I've heard good things about Rock River Arms but can't support them after what they did here in regards to 2A legislation. I'm liking what I see from Bravo Company and SOLGW and am open to other suggestions.
 
If I can build an AR then just about anyone can.

https://www.pewpewtactical.com/build-ar-15-upper-receiver/
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/build-ar-15-lower-receiver/

You don't need $200 worth of tools either. A good wrench is the most important.

Personally, I'd get a PSA. They are putting out some really solid products. Don't be fooled. Almost all these AR companies buy their parts from the same suppliers. I suppose that some of them use more unicorn dust and fairy farts and that justifies the difference in price.

Unless you're headed outside the FOB a PSA rifle will serve the needs of 95% of the population.

Or you could just upgrade your Ruger.
 
AR wrench, vice, pin style or Magpul vice block upper holder, hammer and a punch, and a giant sized clear garbage bag. That's all you need.

Larue Ultimate upper kit, is the best kit that I've ever built.

You can also order a complete lower from any LGS. And get your upper from BCM online.
 
I've heard good things about Rock River Arms but can't support them after what they did here in regards to 2A legislation.

Then you’ll need to omit Ruger, Remington, Springfield Armory, Colt, and S&W from your list as well. RRA hired a lobbyist that did what lobbyists do, mainly sacrifice everyone who isn’t their client. It happened before Rock River or Springfield knew what was happening and they both Swiftly severed ties. The other companies listed were far more involved with the process in other legislative matters that short changed citizens to placate politicians.

It’s your decision on how righteous a stance to take but as often as not these issues have arisen from self-preservation of a company or temporary ownership of that company. Having met some of the owners and employees of the companies I can testify to their strong 2A stance and commitment to our rights.
 
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My concern is that I don't know enough to even ask the right questions in regards to ordering parts.

Not a problem at all! A thousand gets you into a great range of built rifles.
But as with any firearm used for self-preservation, even the high end ones, test it out to actually see if it’s reliable. Stranger things have happened.:)
 
Then you’ll need to omit Ruger, Remington, Springfield Armory, Colt, and S&W from your list as well. RRA hired a lobbyist that did what lobbyists do, mainly sacrifice everyone who isn’t their client. It happened before Rock River or Springfield new what was happening and they both Swiftly severed ties. The other companies listed were far more involved with the process in other legislative matters that short changed citizens to placate politicians.

It’s your decision on how righteous a stance to take but as often as not these issues have arisen from self-preservation of a company or temporary ownership of that company. Having met some of the owners and employees of the companies I can testify to their strong 2A stance and commitment to our rights.

Bill Ruger is dead. Ruger is fine.
 
AR brand or part selection is a "can of worms" question. Ask a generic question, and you're going to get more information than you can reasonably process. Twenty posts in and you could probably spend several hours or more just researching the recommendations and links there are now. You will get a ton of answers from varying viewpoints because there are a ridiculous amount of assemblers, options, and preferences. People spend hours debating which buttstock or grip to choose from one manufacturer, for instance.

I think the better place to begin is to think about what you like and don't like about what you have now. Sure, reliability and durability are great criteria, however, all AR's of reasonable quality should run at least 5K rounds of without part failure. There are outliers, like those who do "meltdown" videos, etc.

So, the criteria we have are:
Caliber 5.56mm/223Rem
A budget
"Something more reliable than a Ruger 556" - presumably
Buy something instead of build something
Reputable manufacturer with support
Range and HD use

Truly, these are too generic to offer specific recommendations without more preferences. Manufacturers do make run of the mill AR's, but they do specialize in certain things that make them unique.

Here is a list of details that I would think about:
Barrel length - 16" to 24"+. We probably can presume 16" for HD, but we don't know. 14.5" with a P&W FH is annoying if you have to change anything.
Barrel quality - Unlined (probably not), chrome lined, Nitrided, Stainless, CHF, something out there like a Proof carbon fiber, etc.
Bolt carrier group - which manufacturer (or which branding of toolcraft- haha), coating?, C158 vs 9310 bolt material.
Gas system length - carbine, midlength, rifle, intermediate, or some other length someone has concocted and promoted. Midlength is more standard now for 16" barrels.
Carbine or Rifle recoil system - although the carbine buffer tube is almost standard now and simply used with H3 buffer for "rifle length equivalent." But some people do like rifle length stocks.
Furniture - handguard (free float? - how to spend $200 without really trying - haha), stock, grip, VFG?
Trigger - milspec, milspec enhanced/coated; single stage/double stage? There must be great money in AR triggers as there are an incredible amount of choices.
Sling - which one, sling attachments

The point of this list is in part to overwhelm because AR's have a lot of specifics. The Ruger 556 makes most of those choices all bundled up into a generic package for everyday people who trust the Ruger name. While it doesn't take a ton of research since some manufacturers also put together their part builds for the customer, if I were dropping that kind of money on an AR, I would want to have some idea about the specifics of what I was getting. There are some expensive AR's out there that aren't as reliable as some less expensive ones. There are manufacturers who focus on ultimate reliability at the expense of accuracy. With such a diverse marketplace and a huge amount of choices for a large budget, it is difficult to make a specific recommendation.
 
Personally, I'd get a PSA. They are putting out some really solid products. Don't be fooled. Almost all these AR companies buy their parts from the same suppliers. I suppose that some of them use more unicorn dust and fairy farts and that justifies the difference in price.

True, there are only a few places that make lower reciever, barrels etc, the difference is in the specs and QC.

The 3 lowers I have from PSA do not have the same fit and finish compared to the 5-6 lowers I have from Aero and those from Aero dont have the same fit from the 2 lowers I have from SOLGW.
The Aero uppers 4-5 IMO dont hold a candle to the 6-7 BCM uppers. All of the Aero receiver extensions are oversized, the BCM IMO is superior in the fact that the extensions are undersized and are a press fit. Plus they fit tighter to the lower when compared to Aero and PSA.

To say an AR from PSA is the same as an AR from BCM or some other higher end rifle is just mere pixie dust is just not true.
 
I'm a long way from an AR guru but I have six and built four of them, from one degree or another. If I was spending $1000-$1500 on a good, all around AR, I would probably start with this upper from BCM. Add their bolt carrier group and charging handle.

https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-mk2...ght-upper-receiver-group-w-mcmr-13-handguard/

Then put together an Aero lower with a basic parts kit, Geissele trigger and furniture of choice. I like a more vertical grip and find the A2 to suck all the way around. Too steep and too close to the trigger. I like the Magpul MIAD but the BCM and B5 grips are also excellent. Same for buttstocks. For me a little fuller cheek piece like the ACS or BCM and B5 SOPMOD stocks are nice. I have yet to try one on a carbine to see how they balance but the UBR is a great stock, if not a wee bit heavy.

For an AR, I have to have a vertical foregrip and a light. I like lightweight M-Lok handguards. I'm really digging the Streamlight HL-X with the integrated laser but think I'm gonna switch to a Haley Strategic mount to hug it closer and extend it toward the muzzle.

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