I wont be ordering the trigger from midwayusa due to pricing, I just find that it is easier to find what I am looking for there. Most Geissele triggers are not quite what I am looking for; this is a target/varmint gun. They have their Hi-Speed National Match, but that is even more expensive. I am also not sure if I want to go with a 2 stage. I have used them on other people's guns but not my own.
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No doubt the usual issue trigger kit isn't so hot. I've had decent ones attached to issue rifles, but the LPK's coming out in kits or rack grade guns aren't that good.
One specific trait many of the better triggers have is an adjustable reset screw, to shorten up the amount of creep. Most precision bolt guns have had them for decades, and they've become standard on hunting rifles, too.
Since they reduce reset about 80% when properly adjusted, they don't have the creep, either, and that means a lot of the grit is eliminated, too. It's just the last 20% of travel that counts, then. My AGP lower came with it already installed, the before and after are night and day. Short reset, a nubbin of creep, and all but one trickle of grit left. Much improved for a hunting AR.
The triggers on AR's are designed for military use and to keep soldiers from tinkering with them, so the hammer spring loads the trigger weight. Reducing it reduces hammer power, target triggers under 2.5 pounds have problems with hard military primers. Some of the aftermarket triggers change up the pivots and spring leverage to make them different and can reduce trigger weight without affecting hammer power much.
There's also a difference in target and tactical, now, plus the awareness you can have a great trigger and it's still 4.5 pounds - or more. A light trigger isn't necessarily best in the field or on duty - military standards set it at 6-8 pounds for some good reasons.
The best bang for the buck isn't an expensive $250 trigger, you'll get your money's worth, but for the few dollars spent on a trigger adjustment screw, you get 80% of what they deliver anyway. It's the last few percent that are exponentially expensive.
One specific trait many of the better triggers have is an adjustable reset screw, to shorten up the amount of creep. Most precision bolt guns have had them for decades, and they've become standard on hunting rifles, too.
Since they reduce reset about 80% when properly adjusted, they don't have the creep, either, and that means a lot of the grit is eliminated, too. It's just the last 20% of travel that counts, then. My AGP lower came with it already installed, the before and after are night and day. Short reset, a nubbin of creep, and all but one trickle of grit left. Much improved for a hunting AR.
The triggers on AR's are designed for military use and to keep soldiers from tinkering with them, so the hammer spring loads the trigger weight. Reducing it reduces hammer power, target triggers under 2.5 pounds have problems with hard military primers. Some of the aftermarket triggers change up the pivots and spring leverage to make them different and can reduce trigger weight without affecting hammer power much.
There's also a difference in target and tactical, now, plus the awareness you can have a great trigger and it's still 4.5 pounds - or more. A light trigger isn't necessarily best in the field or on duty - military standards set it at 6-8 pounds for some good reasons.
The best bang for the buck isn't an expensive $250 trigger, you'll get your money's worth, but for the few dollars spent on a trigger adjustment screw, you get 80% of what they deliver anyway. It's the last few percent that are exponentially expensive.
madcratebuilder
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It depends on how much material is removed. In most cases surface hardening is .006-.010 deep, go past it and you have soft metal that well wear away fast. Trigger mechanics that know what they are doing well re-harden the surface after removing much material.Thanks for the link to Bill Springfield! That looks like a really good deal. Question though: I have read that polishing/grinding AR triggers is inadvisable because they are only surface hardened, is this true?
The ALG Defense Quality Mil-Spec (QMS) Trigger looks like it well be a hot seller.
It would behard to believe that Geissle doesn't have something you would like in a single stage. Their super dynamic 3 gun trigger is amazing and the pull feels better than advertised. The two stage triggers are excellent for precision work. I have a timney 3 lb single stage as well which is nice, but it is now sitting in a spare parts bin and replaced with a Geissle. i have shot the Timney, jewell, RRA, and many others and in my opinion the Geissle is superior in feel and lock time.
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That trigger is aimed at people who don't want the crummy stock trigger but don't want to pay for a decent ($200) aftermarket trigger. I think it'll fill that niche nicely and plan to get one or two. Besides, when I emailed them, Amy Geissele herself responded. I like that kind of owner involvement.The ALG Defense does look great for a tactical set up but that's a little much trigger pull weight for hunting/target(IMO anyway).
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