AR advice/help needed!! PLEASE!!!!

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Sounds like some progress is being made toward your final goal. If your attorney friend is doing this pro-bono, or if you are wanting to do it right and willing to pay for it, then I say make sure that you do everything according to how he says. Document everything, phone calls, emails, what you are going to be sending back; just so that there is a paper trail in case this ammo company tries to pull something else...
 
I think at this point it's all up to you and your attorney friend. With the chain of possession so protracted there may be no legal recourse and the new upper will be your best option. No one here will likely be able to guide you further.
 
Sounds like my attorney would like to see the ruptured case and have everything looked at. Very curious that it wasn't returned with everything else as promised. Guess we'll wait and see what happens now. I know I won't have them obtain a new upper and hold it until they get my parts back. If anything is worked out my lower will go to the manufacturer to be inspected, reassembled if possible and test fired. I feel it "looks" OK, but as most of you agree, it took a major kaboom and it may have problems that my aging eyes can't see. So he'll either be sending them a letter or the company can come up with another solution.
 
I would think, at the minimum, that lower should be x-rayed to find out if it's got any invisible stress fractures.

You can't always see what's going on under the surface.
 
Soupshooter:

From this point on, I would treat every bit of the rifle and the fired projectile like we treat a crime scene.

No one touches it, handles it or does anything with it.

And, as much as we'd like to hear about it, if you post anything at all, make it minimal. It sounds like it's about to get REALLY interesting.

When everything is finished, if you want to keep the lower take it to an automotive machine shop and have them magna-flux it. If there are cracks, this will definitely find them.

Now, go and make 'em squirm. :D
 
I think this is going to take a turn for the worse and become some protracted personal injury case instead of just making things right with the gun.

From this point on, I would treat every bit of the rifle and the fired projectile like we treat a crime scene.

No one touches it, handles it or does anything with it.
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That cow has left the barn long ago, the ammo co. has the case, the shooter has the gun and the rest of the ammo, the whole thing has to be traced back over 10 yrs to some deviant criminal saboteur???
Sounds like to many episodes of CSI or Criminal Minds. FWIW if my kid had been hurt and I could without any doubt attribute it to the ammo co. I would go to the ends of the earth to get the guilty to pay but I don't think they (the company) are maliciously loading dangerous ammo, if there is or was an employee doing it I doubt he was allowed to keep doing it for over 10 yrs. couple that with the long chain of possession over the life of the ammo and the only one who benefits is the lawyers.
Get the lower inspected, take the upper that was offered and shoot up the ammo they sent.
 
Spoke with ammo co. today and the guy said send us the parts and we'll replace the upper. I said I'll keep the parts and I would send my lower to mfr for inspection and possible rebuild and they could pay the bill. He said no...yadayadayada. Also that I have to send them the parts, and the upper has to be sent to them from the mfr., then to me from them by federal law...Since when is it illegal by federal or any law for the manufacturer of the upper barrel assembly to ship it to the individual? He then Said I think I'm done talking to you and click, he hung up! Hmmm. OK. Called manufacturer. What will it cost for the upper I want? $700. Ok, I'll get back to you. Called ammo company again and this time I asked for the guys boss by name. Had about a 45 minute discussion, explaining exactly what happened the day it went boom and with every conversation with the customer service manager since. Including the hang up! I said I will send lower to mfr for thorough inspection, and rebuild if possible. If not I'll order a new rifle. Either way their company will pay the total charges. Also, I'll keep all of my parts, ammo and "bullet". If worried about a lawsuit because of me keeping my parts, send me a release! I want my rifle back, and I'll sign it when I get what I want. Not worried about my hearing, it'll be fine or good enough. The pain in my head will eventually go away. My daughter wasn't hurt thank God, just scared. If it were my goal to sue, that would've happened immediately. So company's call now...take my offer or my attorney's? I'm sure his would be a tad bit more.
They apparently have decided to take mine. My lower will be shipped to the manufacturer tomorrow for inspection. I will let them know what will be needed and they agreed to pick up the tab. Hopefully I'll know next week what I'll end up with. New or still as good as new rebuild? I'm fine with either. Will let all know asap!

p.s. I did check out a few nice rifles earlier today...I really like the SIG 556 folding stock SWAT! May have to put that on my wish list for later. :)
 
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I refused, reiterating the fact that my daughter's or my head could have been blown off and the fact I still can't hear worth a crap.
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I don't recall any company ever paying damages on what could have happened. If you are going with that argument, that your daughter's head could have been blown off and hence you want more money, then you will not win your case. You don't get compensation for damages that did not occur. If your daughter's head was blown off, then that would be another story.
 
Double, if you read a bit closer, I never asked the ammo company for anything except my AR repaired or replaced whichever cheaper but still safe. Also my last post said that we are both OK.
Lower was shipped out yesterday and I should hear from manufacturer next week.
 
I read through this thread. It sounds like under normal conditions the reloading equipment could not load the 125g projectile.

That indicates someone put it there via an off line process. Maybe at the reloading company, the distributor that handles the ammo, even the store you bought the ammo at.

This is a no-win situation for everyone involved.

Not mentioning the re-loader was HighRoad.

This was a malicious act, who did it at what point in the distribution system is unknown and likely never will be known.

Clutch
 
Got a call from the gun company yesterday and was told my AR is all back together, checked, test fired and ready for shipment! The ammo company has already paid for it, so I should have it back early next week. Will post updated pics after it arrives. He said the lower was absolutely fine minus the bolt release being sheared off.
 
Soupshooter said:
Got a call from the gun company yesterday and was told my AR is all back together, checked, test fired and ready for shipment! The ammo company has already paid for it, so I should have it back early next week. Will post updated pics after it arrives. He said the lower was absolutely fine minus the bolt release being sheared off.
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Happy to hear of your succesful outcome! Thanks for fighting the good fight. God bless and take care.
 
Soupshooter said:
Got a call from the gun company yesterday and was told my AR is all back together, checked, test fired and ready for shipment! The ammo company has already paid for it, so I should have it back early next week. Will post updated pics after it arrives. He said the lower was absolutely fine minus the bolt release being sheared off.
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Great to hear that it all worked out! And again, glad that both you and your daughter were able to walk away from the initial kaboom.

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just read most of the thread...

WOW!!!

My vote is employee sabotage.

Where I work we've had multiple fraudulent workers comp. claims, thefts of company property, careless damage to company property and injuries from negligence (guys shooting nail guns at each other as a prank)...

All I can say is that employing other people is both a huge pain in the rear end and risk.

Thank the Lord that you're daughter wasn't hurt. Hopefully it didn't scare her too bad.

Hope your hearing recovers 100%
 
Finally here!

Here's the basically new AR I received last Monday. Before and after I reinstalled my furniture. It now is a 16" heavy barrel with rifle length handguards. still trying o decide about changing to a Magpul ACS stock? Now to find time to shoot it!
 

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This is the CRAZIEST thread I have ever read on a gun forum that was actually based on a real event.

I am also highly interested in what company supplied this ammunition.
 
yeah let's figure out which company this is. Factory remanufactured...only a few come to mind.
 
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