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SEVERAL STILL AT LARGE AFTER SHOOT-OUT


Several Hispanic men ranging in age from late teens to late twenties are still at large after being involved in a shoot-out with two diamond salesmen. It happened Monday outside Cecil's Jewelry store on Rodney Parham in Little Rock.

Police have two suspects in custody. Another was killed in the shoot-out and four are still on the loose. This as jewelry store owners received a fax late Tuesday afternoon warning them of those still at large. Many are now on heightened alert.

Danwerke Jewelers owner Patrick Daniel says he's well aware his store gets cased by potential robbers more than he'd like to think. And just last week he thought something was about to happen after people he calls suspicious came through the store.

Daniel says, "I think when they looked around and saw the cameras that recorded their faces, they felt they should leave and go on. So, we've been fortunate to that respect."

Daniel doesn't think Monday's crime is necessary related to those who came through his store, but says no one can be sure.

Police have 25-year-old Raul Camaro and 28-year-old Jairo Martinez in custody. They are not cooperating with authorities, but police think they're from the Dallas area.

Little Rock police teamed up with the FBI for a news conference late Tuesday afternoon. There, they talked about the growing national problem of jewelry robberies.

FBI Agent Tom Browne says, "It’s getting more violent. They have no problem doing an armed robbery in broad daylight with plenty of witnesses, doesn’t matter to them."

Authorities say diamond dealers are often followed around the country, even to their homes, to be beaten and robbed. The pay-out is often in the millions.

Browne says, "They'll recruit young males, tell them I'll get you to the United States, this is how it'll play out. And a lot of times they're not aware of what they're getting into."

At Monday's scene, police recovered some semi-automatic handguns, a revolver and a knife. This is the very reason Daniel says most dealers do business armed.

Daniel says, "They’re having to be really defensive these days because it's becoming like the Wild, Wild West."

Even though the diamond carriers recovered all their jewelry Monday, police charged the two suspects in custody with aggravated robbery, theft and manslaughter for the death of their alleged partner.

Melissa Dunbar, Reporter
Created: 3/15/2005 4:47:35 PM
Updated: 3/15/2005 6:42:39 PM
 
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ONE DEAD IN ATTEMPTED DIAMOND ROBBERY



One man was killed and several others on the run after gunshots were exchanged outside a Little Rock jewelry store.

Police say seven hispanic men attempted to rob two diamond dealers outside Cecil's Jewelry. The holdup attempt happened just before 5:00pm near the intersection of Rodney Parham Road and Interstate 430.

The store owner said the diamond vendors had already left the stores and were sitting inside their parked car when the holdup happened.
Employees at the jewelry store say they heard about 18 rounds of gunfire. The store owner ran outside, armed with his own gun, and saw the suspects crsah their vehicle into a median on Rodney Parham Road.

The diamond dealers were armed as well, and exchanged gunfire with the suspects. Two of the suspects were hit by gunfire. One later died at a Little Rock hospital. Several suspects escaped in a second vehicle, while polie searched a nearby neighborhood for two men believed to have fled on foot.

Police believe the robbery attempt was well-planned. Witnesses said the suspects had sat in the parking lot of the store for at least an hour, waiting for the diamond dealers to come out of the store.

Robert Bell, Executive Producer
Created: 3/14/2005 10:49:21 PM
Updated: 3/14/2005 10:50:46 PM
 
I know a guy who escorts diamond shipments.

His team all wear body armor and carry ARs and pistols.

When millions of dollars of easily transportable wealth are concerned, you can bet there will be some bad folks interested in stealing it.
 
last year in Austin, TX, there was a botched robbery of a diamond courier that resulted in a daytime shootout at a strip mall. two suspects were arrested.

On 2/19/04 around noontime, a courier was delivering diamonds. while he was unloading a container from the back of the vehicle (does not appear he had backup), four bad guys approached, one with a gun. shots exchanged by both parties, the courier had a CHL packing a .380 PPK. Note: he was lucky because his gun supposedly jammed).

courier shot two bad guys but the other two fled with the merchandise. bad guys fled on foot to a drop car, then dumped it and fled in another car.

i like the idea of using a "team" of couriers, im wondering if there is a market for that kind of security? it would definitely cost more....but then again, if you're trucking around something worth alot of money i'm sure it is worth it.

if anyone works in the Central TX area let me know......that's why i recommend body armor!
 
[WHINE] Well, yeah, but what about those lovable, hungry Hispanics from poor, downtrodden Mexico who just want to tiptoe across the border to work? [/WHINE]

Guess it depends on the definition of "work," doesn't it?
 
Easy there, standing wolf, they are just doing the work that Americans don't want to do.... :banghead:
 
Steve,

Used to help a couple of dealers with security when they were in town. Even a couple of decades ago this sort of thing was a problem, with perps staking out dealers and following them- now it seems to be far worse. Still have friends in the trade, they are more worried (and careful) than ever.

lpl/nc
 
[WHINE] Well, yeah, but what about those lovable, hungry Hispanics from poor, downtrodden Mexico who just want to tiptoe across the border to work? [/WHINE]
I was going to chime in with my similar comment but ya beat me to it.

Greg
 
interesting idea to venture in to. i could definitely outfit a "high risk" team and i know enough off-duty law enforcement officers and current/former military specops guys who have a "tactical" background to put something together. that could include a marked police car in the convoy as well (take home police cars are great for off duty jobs....)

nothing like a security team with body armor and automatic weapons.

the question is....how much would someone be willing to pay for that kind of security? im sure a team of 5 equipped with that kind of stuff, even for 1 hour of work, may be way out of someone's budget. :eek:
 
Mercenaries in Iraq get $5000 per week for a four man team. SAS and other elite organizations are overwhelmed by requests for early retirment to explore options in the private market:)

A truck driver for Haliburton gets $81000 a year in the same theater.

Soldiers get...
 
Police believe the robbery attempt was well-planned. Witnesses said the suspects had sat in the parking lot of the store for at least an hour, waiting for the diamond dealers to come out of the store.
Yeah, buddy. Imagine how it would have turned out if it wasn't well planned.
 
Wow, $1250 a week per guy if they split it equally. I would have thought the pay would be higher considering the risks.
 
"Even though the diamond carriers recovered all their jewelry Monday, police charged the two suspects in custody with aggravated robbery, theft and manslaughter for the death of their alleged partner."

What is that "even though" supposed to mean? The thieves shouldn't be charged, because the jewelry was recovered?
 
i think it depends on your employer if you are an overseas contractor.

i have heard Blackwater contractors make from the mid-30's to over $120k per year depending on their assignment.

CTU (Philippines) is another contracting firm. a guy i talked to who worked for them made slightly over $100k. he is a former Ranger and a team leader.

then i talked to another guy who is currently overseas as a security contractor for a power company. their linemen are stringing lines and they watch those guys' backs. 90 day contract for $7500 (equivalent of $30k annually). former military but unknown about specops.

a current SF buddy of mine, who happens to be a THR board member, was offered an OBSCENE amount of money to go overseas.
 
Quick note, both persons transporting the jewels had valid Texas CCW permits which we recognize here. The bad guy dead was shot by one of those men.
 
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