Are all anti's really closet classists?

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anti's dont trust anyone, especially themselves. They are scared of the possibilities if they were to have a loaded gun in their hands, so no one should have them.
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I think that sums it up. They don't see guns as machines with function and use. They project their emotions onto guns and imagine them to embody danger, evil, violence and fear. They equate a gun sitting on a table to a bomb about to go off. By proxy, they feel(key word feel) that gun owners, since we like guns, must also be full of violence and anger.


We can talk about rights and the Constitution all day long. But until the majority of America sees guns as no different from a table saw in the garage, or a pair of scissors in the drawer, we won't get anywhere. Tools to be used responsibly and with much caution, but tools none the less.


Now as for the topic of the post, I do think that those at the top; the Feinsteins, Boxers, Schumers, and Giuliani of the world do believe that guns should be reserved for certain people: IE them and the people that protect them. But the average anti, liberal and college know it all hippie, I think it is more of an issues of fear and projecting emotions.

That side of the political spectrum is totally dominated be feelings and emotions. To the exclusion of fact and reason. Separate the feelings from the gun issue, and it stops being an issue. No one feels anything about table saws, though people still cut their fingers off with them all the time. There is no anti-table saw lobby.
 
No.

They are often idealists who hope we can get all guns out of the hands of criminals by banning them. They would rather face a criminal who has a knife than a gun. So would I. I just believe that the benefits of allowing guns outweigh the drawbacks.

For most gun control advocates, it is not about economic class. It is about keeping guns out of the hands of people who would commit violent crimes with them. Since they don't know who will commit violent crimes, they want to make sure no one has guns. If they were classists they would want to take guns away from poor people. By the way, there are poor people who are in favor of gun control.

This "holier than thou" bull is not helping our cause.
 
Of course the answer to the question posed is, no. Many may be elitists/classists, but more are just ignorant and scared. The question is also severely loaded because the first gun laws that came to be were exactly to disarm certain groups. ..many times in the name of "public safety".

I will reiterate that from the anti's I deal with, some of them violently opposed to firearms, when the discussion comes up they finally say, "I don't mind YOU owning guns." This comes from both rich and poor, with the YOU certainly referring to more than just good ol' Wedge. This repsonse is nearly universal as well. The worst part, in my mind, is that this response is not a "you are my friend so I'll just say that", but they really mean it. The beliefs are alive and well.

I will use a fictional example that I have seen in reality: A lot out of ignorance and fear and even more out of not wanting the "riff raff" to be able to cause too much trouble. Who would be the first people to buy a Rem. 870 if their very nice neighborhood was experiencing break-ins, they would. And who would still believe that the "riff raff" shouldn't have guns, that registration and permits prevent illegal guns from happening and that their HD 870 would NEVER be confiscated from them...they would.

For everyone saying this a holier than thou, I want to feel better about myself and bash the anti's; FWIW, everytime gun control comes up I extend a range trip. The only ones that have ever accepted were my wife (who goes 3x a year with me when it is nice out) and her sister (who has come I think twice). Everytime, I will say, "let's go to the range" in hopes of at least planting a seed.
 
A lot of them are elitists. They fear and mistrust the lower classes.

A lot of them are racists as well. They're not afraid of guns; they're afraid of Black people with guns. The open racism I've seen expressed in usenet by anti-gunners is astonishing in alleged "liberals".
 
^Yep. Even Obama was quoted as saying he understands how rural americans need firearms for providing food and protection but that people in inner cities do not need firearms. It's obvious what two groups of people he was referring to.
 
Wm F Buckley had C. Heston on his show talking about 2nd amendment and firearm ownership when Mr Heston related a tale of getting a call from a vip movie producer. seems that there were some serious riots going on in the LA area and he wanted to borrow a shotgun and get a "quick lessons" on how to use it. He did not name names but said VIP was liberal and very anti gun.
Most of these folks have loads of personal bodyguards.
2 cases I can remember of "do as I say,not as I do' Ted "fatboy" Kennedy and his machine gun toting BGs and Jane Fonda/Ted Turner racing down stairs
in their home armed with handguns when they thought someone broke into their home
 
There are a few people I know who wanted or did own guns, until their wives ordered them (the guns) out of the house. One of my coworkers is currently selling is guns because his wife is pregnant and doesn't want guns around the baby.
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