Are shotgunners arrogant??

[Snake Eyes]

It's pretty funny in hindsight but I showed up the first time to shoot trap with an 18" cylinder bore, magazine-fed Saiga autoloader. I found out quick that those expensive O/U guns work way better for trap.

Me, with my Winchester Defender at my first clays lesson: "This gun won't work for this! Let me try yours!"

Coach: Breaks each clay. Twice. With my Winchester. Urges me to vary the throws.

Me: Missing with his SKB O/U.

It's not that they're arrogant....they're just so dang much better at it than me.

 

[Nickle]

Saw this thread and just had to join in order to reply.

I've shot several disciplines both for fun and competition.

Are shotgunners arrogant? Yup, some are real snobs. They're snobs with or without the shotgun. I love seeing them put in their place.

That being said, some of the BEST folks I've met shooting were shotgunners. They'll let you shoot their gun in competition and congratulate you when you beat them with it. Or, they'll show you what you're doing wrong and try to help you fix it.

Most Bench Rest shooters are the same way. As well as the pistol shooters and high power shooters. I've broken a rifle in the middle of a match (broken extractor), and finished my target with the gun of the guy next to me. He was spotting for me, and helped me figure where to hold.

A local club I've been a member of would be "out of business", if it wasn't for the shotgunners. On "Clean Up" days, I've seen 2 (me and one other) rifle shooters come, the rest shotgunners, and maybe one bow shooter. At that club, they're carrying the slack.

 

[NineseveN]

Welcome to THR!

 

[stiletto raggio]

While in school I shot on the skeet and trap team. The members were invited to shoot at a lot of civilian clubs all over the northeast, the members of which varied from Remington plant employees in Ithaca (a great shoot) to the very wealthy patrons of exclusive country clubs. All of them treated us well, dined with us, were mixed into our squads and generally shared a good time together.

The wealthy guys and gals did have nice shotguns, but they also had nice cars and nice watches. None of this made them better shooters than us, and they knew it. They didn't care. They enjoyed the sport and camaraderie because of what it was, not because it gave them a venue to show off their wealth. Heck, a man who made $180m off one of his businesses in 2003 alone was shooting a very modest thousand dollar Beretta that he had bought USED.

One of the beautfiul things about shooting fo all kinds is that it brings together people of all ages, backgrounds and income levels, and the small differences that their equipment makes (with shotguns especially) is overshadowed by individual ability and passion.

 

[45R]

Are Shotgunners arrogant.....

Just the 870 owners on this board

 

[sm]

45R,
Oh you're just upset you don't know which barrel fires first on a O/U or SxS...
...oh good grief...
Somebody show 45R how to open a two barrel will ya?
Embarrassing, just embarrassing I tell ya...what you not raised with a Single Shot shotgun?

oh...my.

"Hey kids, we gotta feller here needs some basic shotgun lessons - ya'll up to the task?"

Yeah!! Fresh Meat!! - kids

 

[RNB65]

Only when the Redskins win!

 

[Kelem]

None of the guys i shoot with are arrogant, they all reckon i am, i have never seen any evidence of that

K

 

[Metapotent]

I am a shotgunner...

I am the master of the universe and all pistol/rifle shooters are nothing but ants in comparison to me and my majesty.

In seriousness though. I Shotgun, shoot rifles, pistols, and I do archery regularly. I don't notice any difference in the attitude and personality of shotgunners vs. any other segment of the outdoor sports.

 

[sterling180]

In the UK,some shotgunners(those who opt for the traditional types.) display such a high level of arrogence,towards shotgunners,who use semi-autos and pump-actions.I tend to associate with the target-shooting crowd and I use what ever shotgun,that I can afford and what one I feel comfortable with.

It was those types of shooters and their associations that let down the target-shooting crowd after the Hungerford and Dunblane massacres,by not helping to preserve the British target-shooters,activities. :banghead:

I just hate any shooter who is arrogent and is only concerned about their sport and nobody elses.I think that the GCN's proposals,came as a wake up call to them,though.

 

[Terrierman]

If you think shotgunners are arrogant, start riding a bicycle regularly, read a few of the cycling forums and see what self importance can look and sound like.

 

[Oldnamvet]

I'd never fit in. Spandex would make me look like a beached whale. What it sounds like to me is that anyone who takes their own particular sport too seriously tends to look down on those who are a little more relaxed about their pursuits and actually enjoy themselves, be it golf, tennis, benchrest, shotguns, etc.

 

[sm]

Yep!

What it sounds like to me is that anyone who takes their own particular sport too seriously tends to look down on those who are a little more relaxed about their pursuits and actually enjoy themselves, be it golf, tennis, benchrest, shotguns, etc.

Tamara once posted : Silly Little Tribes...

I think age comes into play as well. Live long enough and one begins to understand what is important and what is not that big of a deal.

 

[mec]

A few decades ago the local clubs catered mainly to skeep and trap shooters, They brought in the money and they made all the rules. I remember a friend who wanted the club to do a little improvement on the pistol range and was told " No. the shotgun shooters would never allow that." Times change and t he big draw and the big money has been IPSC. Our local range got rid of its skeet towers and converted the trap range into an IPSC course.

One natural law seems to be (may have come from Jeff Cooper), " Shotgun shooters = rich. Rifle and Pistol shooters= broke." We have a big invitational shoot here - The Bradshaw Memorial" and rich shotguns guys come in from all over the country. they have motor homes and busses and little alligators on their shirt pockets. they lay out a buffet behind the firing lines and don't seem to mind if the poor people brouse through it. They seem to be ok people and for all I know there are Alligators in Florida with little skeet shooters on their shirt pockets.

 

[NineseveN]

and for all I know there are Alligators in Florida with little skeet shooters on their shirt pockets.

LMAO!

 

[Eightball]

It seems that the elitist snobs go for shotguns, because they're more politically correct than the fun stuff. I don't think it's "shotgunners" who are becoming the snobs, I think it's the snobs who pick up shotguns who give the rest of us a bad name (Kerry, anyone?)

The good shotguns just cost more, so the people who can afford them are of course, richer than I, and usually much more arrogant (why is it that wealthy people tend to be snobs, should be the better question)--pistols and rifles are more about function than looks; shotguns are metal pipes that go boom (at the base of it all), so it's more about quality. And you have to pay more for quality, so those "arrogant" shotgunners probably just don't see those of us with a $500 revolver or $700 rifle in the same "bracket" as people with $5K shotguns.

Just my .02

 

[TrapperReady]

It's official. This thread now contains some of the silliest (since this is THR, I'll avoid more accurate adjectives) stuff I've ever read around here.

 

[sm]

and for all I know there are Alligators in Florida with little skeet shooters on their shirt pockets.

Rumor is the Trap Shooters are trying to get Croc's to wear wittle Trap Shooters on their shirts...

5 stand and Sporting Clay folks - being so unpredictable and all - no critters will even consider these two groups as logos for shirts...


Quail do have "Crazy Shotgunner" Licensed Gear, yep, sure do. Based on Shotgunners attempting to shoot "Crazy Quail" ...

Wittle T shirts and hats and...with-

Folks trying to shoot with actions still open on two barrel guns, Folks dropping shells, Folks walking funny, frustrated, looking one way and "quail" going the other...

Shotgunners ain't arrogant - we just a fun bunch is all.

 

[PCGS65]

by BadLt, I like arrogant shotgunners...

I use to make a little spending money shooting trap against arragant shotgunners when I was a kid.

A 10 year old with a 20 gauge youth 870 against a 45+ year old with a really expensive O/U.

Easy $$$

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Everyone is arrogant to some extent. It a way to build self esteem, for insecure people.

 

[weregunner]

Trapshooting? Is that with a fox or coyote in it? Ain't that hard on the trap? Skeetshooting? I use Yardguard on skeets. Didn't know a load of seven and a half load would kill many skeets. All kidding aside, I have shot skeet and had a gent hand over his Perazzi and let me have couple of shots.At the Mcmiller shooting center another gent gave me crack with his Winchester side by side and my buddies and I talked about clays shooting.That isn't being arrogant to me.At the time I had a Stevens 69VR. The sit down comedian strikes again.Sitting down makes me a smaller target.Doh!:banghead:

 

[Wags]

Wow, does this bring back memories! In 1986 yes, the shotgunners of my then defunct gun club were arrogant, snooty, and down right nasty to anyone that owned anything (especially the "military" style firearm owners) other than a sporting shotgun i.e over/under. Then came along the 1994 firearms act and we fell apart as a club with everyone pointing fingers on why we failed as a whole (long story) and the club closed due to close neighbors with new built homes.

20 years later to 2006 at my new club all firearms are pretty much tolerated and you don't hear much blasaphemies as then. Seems the 1994 gun bill pretty much let everyone know were all in the same boat and we must stick together on all gun issues if as a club we are to survive.

Just my observations and opinons.

 

[45auto]

Shotgunners can't be arrogant, that would probably mean every shooter in the US.

Is there a household that doesn't contain at least one "shotgun"? The most versatile "firearm" known to mankind....

 

[Tijeras_Slim]

The clay birds don't care which gun I'm using, a Baretta O/U or an ancient Winchester M-12, so why should anyone else?

My experience with shotgunners has been pretty good.

 

[hawgbosstx]

In my opinion, shotgunners are what support a gun club. I have met a few people who were a posterius maximus who shot rifles/pistols. I don't think that anyone should be looked down on at any time. We are all shooters, and I think that is what we should focus on. Besides, the anti-gun idiots will find anything they can to use against us.

Personally, I shoot a Benelli Ultra light, a Remington 870, 1100 and an 11-87. I don't look down on anyone who shoots the Baikals or the $140 Mossberg Maverick. If that is what a person can afford, and it suits them, that is what I think matters. But again I also respect the guys who own the Merkels and $10K+ guns. There again, if that is what they can affordm and it suits them, that is what matters.