That's the point I was making satirically!
Well, you blew that one right past me. Perhaps you could state your point non-ironically for the dimwitted (like me)?
That's the point I was making satirically!
Ok then which of the two is more important force or distance?Yes.
Weight, length of pull, and you get to watch the hammer coming back.How is that and at what point in reference to trigger movement or weight of press? Are we talking force acquired to discharge the weapon or that combined with length of trigger movement to actuate the firing sequence?
Per Ernest Langdon, it's the length of the trigger travel.Ok then which of the two is more important force or distance?
I just wanted to quote this since it is correct.
We've had people on this forum call them "Transitional Double Action" and "SA/DA". Man, that drives me nuts.
What term?The only reason I use that term is because it's the proper term used by both S&W and SIG in their armorer classes.
The thing is, most NDs -- with no human injuries or fatalities -- occurring in the law enforcement arena are only investigated internally, if they're investigated at all, and I doubt most agencies report these occurrences to any entity outside themselves. Kudos to LASO for its attempts to self-report and be transparent, but absent an agency's policy or legal requirements to report NDs where no one is injured (other than hurt feelings or leaving a mark in a clearing barrel), it'd be hard to find meaningful statistics on this subject.Its both weight and length of travel. The long steady pull of most DA make it very difficult to have a ND or AD. I would love if someone more technically savvy than I could find a chart on LEO AD/ND comparing DA/SA and striker fired. That would end that debates right there.
Though you'll notice in the past few years all four of those companies, long know as hammer fired holdouts, have introduced their own polymer striker fired guns. The SIG P320, the Beretta APX, the HK VP9/40, and the CZ P-10.I'd be looking at overall commercial sales of all handguns. Seems SIG, Beretta, H&K, CZ continue to sell an awful lot of hammer-fired semi-autos ...
Yes.Ok then which of the two is more important force or distance?
If I could steal market share from any of my competitors, I would do it too.Though you'll notice in the past few years all four of those companies, long know as hammer fired holdouts, have introduced their own polymer striker fired guns. The SIG P320, the Beretta APX, the HK VP9/40, and the CZ P-10.
While I think there is a place for hammer fired TDA pistols, the trend is to striker fired guns.
Though you'll notice in the past few years all four of those companies, long know as hammer fired holdouts, have introduced their own polymer striker fired guns. The SIG P320, the Beretta APX, the HK VP9/40, and the CZ P-10.
While I think there is a place for hammer fired TDA pistols, the trend is to striker fired guns.
Its both weight and length of travel. The long steady pull of most DA make it very difficult to have a ND or AD. I would love if someone more technically savvy than I could find a chart on LEO AD/ND comparing DA/SA and striker fired. That would end that debates right there.
Since about 1990, it seems the key characteristics of a "good trigger" is that is has a tactile and audible reset.That crowd will take a total cr@p trigger and pronounce it "tactical-grade."
I'm kidding, but only sorta.
Which grows from the absurd notion that shooters working at speed are "riding the reset." Slo-mo video footage of actual fast shooters actually shooting fast makes that claim seem... improbable.
Good slow motion video for catching shooting kinematics requires high frame rates. Slowing down 30-60 frames per second misses A LOT. 1000 frames per second and up catches lots of things that even experienced trainers and shooters are not aware of until the video becomes available and shows it time after time.
But even taking and reviewing 30-60 frame per second video can be a useful training tool for lots of shooting kinematics, especially if there is lots of light allowing a fast shutter speed to stop the action each frame even if one is left wishing for more frames in between. One can learn a lot about recoil management and how steady a sight picture really is with 30-60 frames per second with a fast shutter speed. Trigger issues are often more subtle and happen very quickly for the more experienced shooters - they can also be harder to sort out given the bulk motion of the frame.
I'm talking about video that shows shooters' trigger fingers coming off the trigger. Pretty hard to "ride the reset" when your finger is moving forward faster than the trigger! That's what I'm talking about, not trigger control generally or straight-back-ness of input.
I'm pretty sure Rob Leatham is not a "ride the reset" guy. I believe the term for his technique is "flip and press" or "press and flip".Yes, there are cases where a shooter's finger comes completely off the trigger and can be seen on video. (These tend to produce longer split times.) But the borderline cases where it is hard to tell are more common.