Are Winchester Actions Strong Enough

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Are Winchester 70 actions forged steel? Even the entry level synthetic stock?
There is a store near my house that still has two Winchester 70s w/syn. stock in .30-06 with a bore sighted Simmons on top for 350.00 each. They are still sealed in box. Is this a good deal?
Did Winchester ever make a budget version of their rifle like the Rem 710.
Is this action strong enough to shoot the barrel out and then get customized and then passed on to my great grandkids one day?
A Winchester 70 is a Winchester 70 right?
 
I never had the chance to buy a Winchester but I sure think the action is a lot smoother than my Remington's. My dad has two Wins and I always wanted to get one but they went out of business before I could grab one.
 
A Winchester 70 is a Winchester 70 right?
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No and a lot of what came from the Winchester factory before it was shuttered was junk. It's probably a push-feed action with a cheap finish and not worth customizing.

I'm looking forward to the forthcoming reintroduced Model 70s, because it seems that FN understands that the Model 70's only real appeal is to the more discriminating buyer. They appear to be top-notch.

That said, $350 with a scope sounds like it'd make a pretty damn good budget hunting rifle, and worth picking up. Don't expect an heirloom, though.
 
Winchester receivers are forged.

The only difference betweent the rifles you are looking at and the higher end models is that they (1) don't have the mauser type extractor and (2) have a blind magazine (like a 700 ADL). Maybe the bolt is not jewelled too (?). You get the same receiver, internal parts, barrel and 3-position safety.

The trigger is very easy to adjust.

I'd pick them up if you can use them. It is a good price for a solid rifle. Don't expect them to be collectors items or anything though.
 
Well I like the forged action and workable trigger. But what is the benefit of the mauser extractor?
Does anyone have a picture of it?
The bolt was jeweled though.
 
Oh yeah this is a Walmart by the way. And the guy at the counter says they've just been there a while and never move really.
 
with it being wally world, then they are most likely a push feed action...not a bad thing...Remy's and Savage's are both push feed along with alot more out there.

The Mauser style claw extractor is more robust and is almost guaranteed to get the spent case out of the chamber. One drawback is if your having someone shoot your rifle that doesn't know the Mauser action, and they just drop a round into the chamber and not into the magazine, then they might have some trouble. :(

As for what you want to do with them?

A rifle action is a rifle action IMO. You can rebarrel them and have whatever you want. And those actions were chambered up to 300 WM, 338 WM and bigger...I think you would be aight. :)

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with it being wally world, then they are most likely a push feed action...not a bad thing...Remy's and Savage's are both push feed along with alot more out there.
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It will be at least comparable to what Remington sells for a good deal more money these days.

I just figure that, if you're going to build a custom gun, you're going to put a lot of money and/or work into it, and it's good to note that the action is not the same as the one that made the Model 70 famous, for better or worse.

That's why I'd buy it, but it's more valuable as a knockaround hunting rifle than as the basis of a custom gun.
 
The only difference betweent the rifles you are looking at and the higher end models is that they (1) don't have the mauser type extractor and (2) have a blind magazine (like a 700 ADL). Maybe the bolt is not jewelled too (?). You get the same receiver, internal parts, barrel and 3-position safety.
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+1. This rifle started life as a Model 70 Ranger, Winchester's economy model and is used in 1,000 yard competition:

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I have 4 Winchester tactical/target rifles; 2 with pushfeed actions and 2 with CRF actions, and all are accurate and utterly reliable. If you can pick up a Winchester at a good price, go for it.

Don
 
Look at it like this -- you're basically getting a scoped Remington ADL with a good 3-position safety for $350. Does that give you some more clarity? :)
 
I don't believe you could go wrong. I have a couple of Mdl 70's. One a pre 64 the other a post 64. I have found no fault with the push feed version. (not that I found fault with the claw extactor either)

No Mdl 70 ever stooped as low as a 710.
 
Well I'm going back to look at them today. They still have Remington 700 ADLs which they don't make anymore. The ADL with the plain wood stock and iron sights.
I like iron sights on bolt guns. I don't know why but they just seem neater, and nobody makes like that only in big game format.
They only have .270 models though for 450.00.
Is this 700 better than the 70 as far as ability to use over again and a solid foundation as a builder rifle down the line.


I really wanted the .30-06 though.
The worst part is that Walmart doesn't have layaway anymore. So I'd have to buy them outright and I don't like dropping large amounts of money even if it is a steal.
 
Hey USSR whats the whole story on that rifle if you have a moment?
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No problem, Texasred.

Winchester pushfeed action
26" fluted MTU contour Krieger barrel in .30-06
McMillan A2 stock
Williams steel one-piece bottom metal
Speed Lock firing pin and spring
Jewell trigger
Badger 20MOA base and rings
Leupold 6.5-20x50LR M1 mildot scope

Jack Krieger trued the action, pillar bedded it in the A2, and put it all together. My 1k load is LC Match or Lapua brass, 190SMK's, 60.7gr of RL22, and Fed 210M primers, which nets me 2900fps and 30MOA at 1,000 yards.

Don
 
I like the push feed as well as the claw extractor. Never had a jam with the push feed and realistically, it offers better case support than the claw extractor version. I used a .308 match rifle built on a push feed M70 action. Never had any problems and it shot superbly.
 
I have a Model 70 Ranger I bought new in 1989 or 90. It has the push feed action & has never failed to function. I would jump on the deal you described especially with the included scope. If I had the money I would buy both as someone else has already said.
 
Well the lying bastard at the counter told me they had several in stock but when I went last night they were sold out.
I was all pumped up to get one too.

Now I'll go and put something nice in layaway at Carter's Country
 
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