Area Man's Troubles with a Kel-tec PF9 Resolved by a Glock 26

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About 2 weeks ago, I bought a Keltec PF9. The next day, I took it to the range and fired about 40-50 rounds (different brands such as Winchester white box, Blazer Brass, Wolf, Remington, etc.). Some were JHP and some were FMJ rounds - all 115gr. It functioned flawlessly with all rounds fired, including using two magazines. I considered it fit for "production", as I call it - and put it in my "eligible for carry" pile.

When I got home, I field stripped and cleaned it - then put it back together and loaded it.

A couple days later, a friend of mine was in town - and we decided to go shooting. I started firing the PF9, and after around 4 or 5 rounds, I had a malfunction. The spent shell casing was not successfully ejected from the chamber - and the slide was pushing a fresh round onto it. I didn't know if the extractor had malfunctioned or what. I dropped the mag, locked the slide back and manually pulled the shell casing out of the chamber. I fired a couple more rounds - and I had another failure. This time, the gun jammed while feeding a new round into the chamber. Disgusted, I field stripped the gun, removed the barrel, ran a boresnake through the barrel a few times - coated with Rem Oil, lubed the gun up with Tetra Oil, wiped off the excess - and reassembled.

I started shooting it again - and the same crap started happening again. My friend shot it a few times and he had the same issue. I held it as firmly as possible - so as to ensure the problem wasn't a result of limpwristing, as this little gun has quite a bit of "bite" for a 9mm. It jammed at least 6 or 7 times - and finally, I unloaded it and declared that I would never fire another round through it again.

Yes, it was still under warranty - and I'm sure it could be fixed, but I would never feel like I could trust it 100% ever again. I began to look for a replacement.

It took me about 10 seconds to realize that the replacement would be a Glock 26. In fact, I had considered the 26 before I purchased the PF9 - but I ended up going for the PF9 since it is smaller and thinner. I already have a Glock 17 - and love it.

When I am with a student who is a new shooter - or if I am helping someone decide which gun is right for them, I allow them to shoot a variety of my guns - so they can see what works for them. 90% of the time, they pick the Glock 17 as their favorite out of several other guns, including snub nose revolvers, full frame revolvers, 1911 and a couple others.

So today, I went back to the original gun store where I bought the PF9. The dealer worked out a deal that I was pleased with - and I traded for the 26. I immediately took it to the range (re: our family farm, not an actual range) - and fired about 100 rounds through it, using at least 6 different types of ammo, both magazines the gun came with - as well as 2 magazines that came with my 17.

Guess what...... no malfunctions.

Now - I have owned several Keltecs. I have had 2 P11s, the P40, 2 P32s and a P-3AT. I still have a P32 which my wife carries - although it did have a slight hiccup while we were shooting it the other day. Because of that, my wife and I decided that this will now be replaced with another gun. It will either be the 26 or the 19.

I thought I would relay this information to everyone - so you can consider my experience before you make a purchase for your next carry gun.
 
I started firing the PF9, and after around 4 or 5 rounds, I had a malfunction. The spent shell casing was not successfully ejected from the chamber - and the slide was pushing a fresh round onto it.
This is a "double feed" malfunction, usually caused by an extractor problem. Fifty-five rounds before a malfunction is at least better than some guns I've had that cost twice or three times as much. :rolleyes:
 
"different brands such as Winchester white box, Blazer Brass, Wolf, Remington, etc."

Which brands and loads caused the malfunctions? Unless there's an obvious problem with a gun, like a broken part, I'm inclined to look at the ammo first.

John
 
Trouble started after you field stripped it You might have done something and nor realized it. As it was new and you were not familiar with it. my self I would have checked to see if extractor had loosened be foe trading Its been known to happen on the newer 380's that factory didn't tighten extractor enough
I have 3 Kel Tecs and they have never been a problem I think you just want to buy new pistols:D
 
I just bought a Glock 19 and absolutely love it! I have owned a glock 27 in the past and went through the same selection process you did. I looked at the Kel-Tecs and after holding one concluded that I might as well have a Glock because it's not that much larger but it holds a condiderable amount of ammo in the mag. I normally carry a full sized 1911 but the Glock 19 has replaced it as my all year carry gun due to size and round count.
 
Which brands and loads caused the malfunctions? Unless there's an obvious problem with a gun, like a broken part, I'm inclined to look at the ammo first.

It jammed more with Winchester white box than any other type/brand.

my self I would have checked to see if extractor had loosened be foe trading Its been known to happen on the newer 380's that factory didn't tighten extractor enough

I did. I could manipulate the "claw" with my finger - which seemed rather loose to me.

I think you just want to buy new pistols

Maybe ;) - I just didn't have the warm and fuzzies with the PF9 anymore. To me, keeping a defense gun that has malfunctioned is like keeping a significant other who has cheated. It will just never be the same again. I have zero tolerance for malfunctions in defense guns.

I do have a couple of other guns which misfeed sometimes (Marlin .22LR semi-auto) and a Ruger .22LR auto - which is usually caused by the ammo type, but I still keep them around because they are not defense guns.
 
I love my Glock 26 but a Keltec P3AT takes it's spot as needed. Both 100% since I got them, both of them used. They have been great guns.
 
You think that is bad, I just shot my P40 and that was an experience, I would like to try to learn to shoot it rather than trade it, but that might change. It isn't a carry gun and wouldn't enter that rotation unless I learned to shoot it and could do so consistently. It is notorious for limp wristing, which is something I've never had a problem with. I will attest to the recoil being impressive.

My P32 functioned flawlessly, as usual.
 
I had a P40 - and after taking it to the range without incident a few times, one day the trigger spring or something having to do with the trigger broke. The trigger no longer reset. The recoil in that thing was.... significant.
 
Did you get it fixed? Kel tec sent me parts and has been pretty prompt every time I talked to them, they even send me new springs for my P32 because I bought it used and wanted to make sure they were good.
 
"It jammed more with Winchester white box than any other type/brand."

Thanks, I'm not surprised it was the WWB. It doesn't seem to be as good as it used to be.

John
 
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